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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Craig Hoy

We discussed the money that is being held back in the local government portfolio and that is being rolled forward in the health portfolio. Through your conversations with local government and health boards, you will be aware that, this year, there is a real in-year problem in relation to integration joint boards, with some not making the cost savings that they anticipated, others potentially having to look at reserves and others scratching their heads in disbelief as to how they will roll the money forward into next year. Is there anything that you can do in year to look at the specific health boards, such as those in Aberdeenshire and Edinburgh, that seem to be grappling with a real issue in relation to their IJB liabilities?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Craig Hoy

You are patting yourself on the back and saying that you have managed to balance the budget yet again, but what conversation would you have been having with us today if you did not have the £2 billion that your crystal ball correctly said was going to come? You criticised your political opponents. The Scottish Conservatives suggested tax cuts, which you said would lead to public expenditure cuts, but that is not necessarily axiomatic. What conversation would you be having with us today if you had not got that £2 billion?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Good morning. My questions will continue Mr Marra’s line of questioning. The committee has expressed concerns about the Scottish budget’s long-term sustainability, but is the truth not that, this year, all the cards fell in your favour? You got £2 billion more than you would otherwise have got, and therefore you got lucky this year. It was not that your modelling was correct; it was more about the nature of the transfers that you got through the Barnett consequentials.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Craig Hoy

In the past, we have talked about your efforts to make Government more efficient, to reduce the contingent workforce head count and cost and to reduce the expenditure on the workforce more generally. Shona Robison helpfully responded to my written question about the contingent workforce, and her answer shows that, on 31 March 2022, the contingent workforce across all directorates was 989 and on 30 September 2024 it was 668, which represents a reduction of 321. Over precisely the same period, the number of senior-grade civil servants increased by 500, which is significantly more than the reduction in the contingent workforce.

Are you in a position to provide figures on the net saving from reducing those contingent workers versus the senior civil servants that have replaced them? Do you have an idea, as you progress through this year, of where those figures will be at the end of the financial year, for both the contingent workforce and the senior civil service workforce?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Do you share my concern about the way that these things sometimes work? Although you may be focused on reducing the contingent workforce, at the same time, there has been a pay and grade escalation in the full-time equivalent civil service, particularly among the cohort of senior civil servants. The number of senior civil servants seems to be growing inexorably and to a greater degree than the contingent workforce.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Craig Hoy

To follow up on Mr Marra’s point, the ScotWind moneys have been a hokey-cokey reserve, with moneys going in and out of the account. Do you now have a clear policy on them that says that they should not be used to make up for what are, in effect, forecasting errors on the part of the Scottish Government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Do you think that, in year, we will see some metrics? In the past, we have asked about the savings and whether you could plot them against budget increases. Are you confident that both will be heading south?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Craig Hoy

You referred to the sum of £30 million for the invest to save fund. Do you have a target for the savings that you hope that that will bring in? Is it a factor of five or something like that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Craig Hoy

You have not set a target for what the £30 million fund will bring in.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Craig Hoy

The committee welcomed the strategy, but it was a cautious welcome. My concern, and the concern of a number of organisations that fed into the process, is that the Scottish income tax system, in particular, is still unduly complex, with perhaps too many rates. What consideration are you giving to further simplifying the system—not necessarily reducing rates but simplifying and perhaps removing rates of income tax within the Scottish tax landscape?