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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Craig Hoy

I go back to the original comment from Shona Robison about the floor. What more could be done so that the negotiations are more transparent and perhaps to take the heat out of them, so that the Government can be a bit more honest with you about what it can and cannot afford?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Craig Hoy

In your submission, you say:

“Politicians need to recognise the impact of public sector wage restraint following a decade of austerity, and that wages in the public sector will need to keep pace with private sector wage growth if we are to recruit and retain skilled workers.”

By contrast, the Institute for Fiscal Studies tells us that

“We do not find any evidence that larger increases in public sector pay in Scotland in recent years have boosted the retention of public sector workers.”

What is the point of higher pay for higher-earning civil servants? Is it to retain them or is it simply that that is the culture that now persists within those roles and functions?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Craig Hoy

Finally, has the Scottish Government tied one hand behind its back at the negotiating table by entering into discussions with a presumption that it will not countenance strike action?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Craig Hoy

Dave, I would like to extend the convener’s line of questioning. When Shona Robison appeared before the committee, she made the point that one of the reasons that the Scottish Government has not been transparent or forthcoming about public sector pay is that, if it put a number out there, that number would become the floor and the unions would always negotiate up. Is there an issue now with both sides not necessarily entering into these discussions in good faith? If the Government comes to you and says, “It is 9 per cent over three years or we are going to have to make cuts to front-line services,” should you not be taking that at face value and then working out how you apportion that annualised 3 per cent, rather than—as the recent data shows—public sector wage growth continuing to exceed wage growth not just in the rest of the UK but in the private sector?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Craig Hoy

I have a question about the ecosystem of bodies that could hold the Scottish Government accountable and could push for greater transparency. Is there not an inherent contradiction here in that many of those organisations are either directly or indirectly funded by the Scottish Government? For example, the Scottish Women’s Budget Group is partly funded, I think, by the Scottish Government through Inspiring Scotland or directly. Is there an issue that the ecosystem of bodies in Scotland, which we now call civic society, is, in many respects, funded by the Scottish Government? On whether you are open, honest and critical with the Scottish Government, do you sometimes perhaps pull your punches because you rely on the Scottish budget for funding?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Craig Hoy

There is a presumption that it will not countenance strike action. The Government has made a virtue of the fact that there have been no large-scale public sector strikes in Scotland. Does that give you the whip hand at the negotiating table?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Craig Hoy

Although above-inflation wage growth for those at the lower end of the spectrum would probably gather public support, there is an increasing focus on the higher levels of the civil service—bands A to C, for example—for which unions negotiate with the Scottish Government. Should we be starting to be more prescriptive or granular when we talk about public sector pay? There are some public sector workers who are now earning considerably more than their counterparts in the private sector and who also benefit from better pension arrangements. Should the trade union movement perhaps be a little bit more up front with the public about who you are talking about? There are high-earning workers in the public sector who are getting significant pay increases.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Craig Hoy

Has any mandarin or senior minister explained to you why Scotland now needs three times more senior civil servants than it needed in 2016?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Craig Hoy

Super. Thanks very much.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Craig Hoy

Pejoratively, I would say that the Government makes it up as it goes along.

You have called for the medium-term financial strategy to have a greater focus on how the funding gap will be closed. If the Government does not focus on that, where will we end up in two, five or 10 years’ time?