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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 July 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

Health and Social Care

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

The NHS is an incredible national asset, but as we have heard repeatedly in the debate, it is on its knees.

For 17 years, the SNP Government has been the custodian of Scotland’s healthcare service, but it is out of ideas and out of time. Perhaps that explains SNP Westminster leader Stephen Flynn’s ludicrous intervention yesterday, which abdicated any responsibility for the state of Scotland’s fully devolved health service. It was shameful grievance-mongering but, sadly, that is something that we have come to expect from the SNP. Professor James Mitchell was spot-on when he said that the latest deflection from the SNP was “evasive” and “simplistic”, with “no serious engagement” with the “challenges” that the NHS faces.

In a new report this week, the Royal College of Nursing has laid bare some of the challenges. It found that more than a third of nurses have delivered care in settings such as hospital corridors, which has alarming implications for patient safety. The situation is so bad that the RCN has described it as a “national emergency”.

Dr Sandesh Gulhane said:

“the SNP has chosen to manipulate Scottish parliamentary time in order to serve its UK general electioneering purposes. That is an affront to every Scot who relies on the NHS and to every healthcare professional who dedicates their life to serving others.”

Wherever we look, whether in primary or secondary care, the situation is critical for Scotland’s NHS. Delayed discharges are up by 12 per cent on last year and there have been almost half a million fewer operations than there were in the pre-pandemic period. Consultant vacancies are up by more than 11 per cent in a year, and nursing vacancies remain stubbornly high.

Across every health board, the number of GP surgeries is down on the number a decade ago. Ambulances are stuck outside A and E departments—especially at Aberdeen royal infirmary in my region—for hours at a time. NHS services are increasingly being centralised to urban areas. Minor injuries units in rural communities are closing or restricting their hours, and some rural health boards cannot even recruit GPs.

What about the one in seven Scots who are languishing on NHS waiting lists for months, or even years, as their conditions deteriorate? What about the national treatment centres, including in NHS Grampian and NHS Tayside in my region, that were promised to relieve the pressures on the system, but have been put on ice? Worst of all, we know that people are dying unnecessarily: in A and E departments alone, there were as many as 2,000 excess deaths in 2023.

For too long, the SNP has presided over a process of managed decline in the NHS. Successive SNP health ministers have overpromised and underperformed. NHS staff and patients are paying the price, with intolerable workforce pressures, inadequate infrastructure and unbearably long waits for people who are in pain and discomfort. SNP members do not want to hear it, but it is they who are responsible for the NHS in Scotland and they who are making spending decisions and determining spending priorities.

The crisis will only get worse with an ageing population and growing demand on a healthcare system that simply does not have the capacity to respond. A national conversation on the future of the NHS is welcome but, ultimately, we need solutions. Today, the cabinet secretary talked about the transformation of services and having a national conversation. He used the word “reform” at least seven times—in fact, it was used so often that I stopped counting. Why have the previous health secretaries and the current cabinet secretary not been listening to key stakeholders such as the RCN, the Royal College of Midwives and the Royal College of Surgeons? The SNP Government has the feedback that it needs. It is action that is lacking.

Today, Humza Yousaf was here at the start of the debate, but I noticed that it did not take long for him to scarper out of the chamber—[Interruption.] Did SNP members hear that? He scarpered out of the chamber when he heard the current health secretary talk about reform being required.

Carol Mochan talked about the importance of honesty when having a conversation—but how can one have an honest conversation with the SNP Government when it deflects and denies? There was deflection when the cabinet secretary questioned the figure of 840,000 people on NHS waiting lists, which came out last Tuesday from Public Health Scotland.

Meeting of the Parliament

Health and Social Care

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

I am sorry—I will not take an intervention. I have had enough banging on the drum, Presiding Officer.

This should be about fixing and future proofing—[Interruption.]

Meeting of the Parliament

Health and Social Care

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

The Scottish Conservatives have already delivered in that regard. We were the first of Scotland’s parties to contribute detailed and credible proposals to the conversation. As Dr Gulhane said, for all our population—urban, rural and island—we would take a modern, efficient and local approach to healthcare reform that would increase capacity and address demand. We would introduce a 24/7 digital health service, through a “My NHS Scotland” app.

The cabinet secretary says that primary care is the bedrock of our NHS, but I say to him that primary healthcare is on its knees. We would deliver 1,000 additional GPs, investment of 12 per cent of the NHS budget in GP clinics and a new national standard that would guarantee patients an appointment within a week. We would establish maximum waiting times across all major NHS metrics.

Our NHS has reached a crisis point—

Meeting of the Parliament

Health and Social Care

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

I will refer to SNP back bencher Christine Grahame in a minute.

There was denial when every SNP back bencher—I am coming to you, Christine Grahame—electioneered with anti-Westminster rhetoric. Even when one of our favourite SNP back benchers bangs on her grievance drum—

Meeting of the Parliament

Health and Social Care

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

Thank you, Presiding Officer. That point has been made: it was not a point of order, as we hear constantly.

If Neil Gray is serious about reform, the SNP Government must step up, stop shirking responsibility and finally show some leadership.

Meeting of the Parliament

Health and Social Care

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Tess White

The SNP does not want to hear what I have to say, but I would like to finish. [Interruption.]

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Tess White

This cannot be deflected: people who have been referred to NHS Tayside’s neurology service face waits of up to 98 weeks on treatment for nerve damage, multiple sclerosis and a host of other serious conditions. The situation pre-dates the pandemic, when the board paid private clinics in order that it could just tread water. Now, NHS Tayside is being asked to shave an extra £16.5 million from its budget. Will the cabinet secretary outline how those unacceptable waiting times in NHS Tayside will improve?

Meeting of the Parliament

Wood-burning Stoves and Direct Emission Heating (Rural and Island Communities)

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Tess White

Gillian Martin raised the word “knee-jerk”. I call that pot and kettle. It is evident that Gillian Martin has not even listened to her own back benchers or members of her own party. My point is that it should not have taken a public outcry and pressure from the Scottish Conservatives to sense-check this sorry episode.

The new build heat standard is not just an ill-conceived policy. It is another example of wokerati wine-bar politicians being totally blinkered to the needs of rural Scotland. It was crafted by a central-belt-obsessed SNP Government that was in hock to the Scottish Greens before Patrick Harvie was unceremoniously told to get on his bike by the former First Minister. The Government has shown utter contempt for rural communities the length and breadth of Scotland. It has totally disregarded the financial impact of the policy on the stove industry and the sustainable biofuel companies that rely on that.

The SNP has completely underestimated the realities of rural life. Need I remind the SNP Government of storm Arwen in November 2021, and the countless communities—some 4,000 people across the north-east—that lost power for days? One resident of Sauchen in Aberdeenshire said that the village was without power for a week.

“Luckily”,

he said,

“we have a wood-burning stove, so that kept us warm in one of the rooms.”

For thousands of people, such stoves are a feature of rural resilience. The SNP can try all that it wants to qualify, mitigate and dilute the policy, but when experts such as the Royal Incorporation of Architects in Scotland say that a

“more nuanced approach is needed, tailoring heating specifications to rural circumstances and real-world use scenarios”,

the SNP needs to act.

One stove industry representative from Angus said:

“When cars were deemed pollutants, no one suggested banning them, the industry was allowed to address the issues”

through improvement and innovation such as catalytic converters and hybrid technology.

The new build heat standard is a knee-jerk reaction.

Meeting of the Parliament

Wood-burning Stoves and Direct Emission Heating (Rural and Island Communities)

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Tess White

Exactly. I hope that the minister is listening carefully. Members of the industry are in the public gallery. As other industries have that are transitioning as part of net zero, the stove industry must have the opportunity to evolve and adjust.

Regulations such as these are not simply a legacy of the disastrous Bute house agreement, as Kate Forbes would have us believe; rather, they are due to the way in which policy is made and imposed on rural and remote communities by the SNP Government.

As Scottish Land & Estates has called for, the Scottish Government must change its approach to policy making. It must take account of rural proofing and improve consultation and communication. In the meantime, the Scottish Conservatives will keep standing up for the interests of our rural communities.

18:18  

Meeting of the Parliament

Wood-burning Stoves and Direct Emission Heating (Rural and Island Communities)

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Tess White

I, too, thank Jamie Halcro Johnston for securing this evening’s debate on the banning of wood-burning stoves in new-build homes. It is an opportunity for MSPs to scrutinise the Scottish Government’s ill-conceived policy and, crucially, to raise constituents’ concerns about its impact.

Yesterday, as we heard, Gillian Martin announced a review of the guidance. A review is not the same as a reversal. It should not have taken a public outcry and pressure from the Scottish Conservatives—