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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Tess White

It just so happens. Can I ask you, minister—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Tess White

There have been six cases recorded and not a single prosecution—not one—in five years. Can you explain why?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Tess White

Minister, you say that you have not been involved with the issue. It is a horrific crime. It is about mutilation. It is about violence against women and girls. When I read the papers for this meeting, I was disturbed and shocked that nothing has been done in four years. I read Pam Gosal’s question, which was from years ago. I am shocked and appalled. You say, “Oh well, it will happen in 2026”, but 2026 is the next election. Minister, you are kicking the can down the road, and letting women and girls down.

Do you accept that the women who contributed to the consultation on the bill years ago are not just disappointed that the act has not been implemented, but appalled, shocked, upset and let down, especially given that, as my colleague Maggie Chapman said, there is a report saying that there has been a 50 per cent increase in cases? Do you accept that it is not good enough? For you to say that you are not involved is shameful.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Tess White

It is one of the key stakeholders.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Tess White

Minister, I will build on my colleague Paul O’Kane’s question about non-legislative interventions. You have described to the committee a host of work that is going on. However, you cannot manage what you do not measure. For example, of 181 people in hospital with learning difficulties and complex care needs, 84 were classified as delayed discharges, which is close to half. That is a huge issue. You said that you are struggling to effect change without the bill, but there are some key areas that you are accountable for. The LDAN bill has been delayed and the Scottish Government has finally conceded that the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill is not fit for purpose, and meanwhile the social care sector is in crisis. Therefore, what action is the Scottish Government taking now to ensure that adequate care is available in the community for people with learning disabilities and autism and neurodivergent people?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Tess White

But it is not able to do that.

I have two final questions. Following the Cass report, under-18s in Scotland will be screened for mental health and neurodevelopmental conditions, such as autism, during initial assessments for gender dysphoria. The chief medical officer has confirmed that resources will need to be found to increase capacity. Given the exceptionally long waits for autism assessments, what progress, if any, has been made in that regard?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Tess White

Earlier, Jacqueline Campbell talked about holding your feet to the fire, and I would like to do so on that issue, minister.

The employment rate for autistic people is only 29 per cent, and you said that more work can be done with employers. I have a constituent who has been waiting years for an autism assessment. She is in work, but she cannot get an assessment, which her employer needs in order to make reasonable workplace mitigations and adjustments. She is in a catch-22 situation, and the fact that she has had to wait years is just not good enough. She is one of the lucky ones, because she is in employment. Jacqueline Campbell is nodding her head, so she obviously realises that that is a huge issue.

I asked my constituent about going private, but she said that she cannot do that because she would then be out of the system. She needs an NHS assessment, but she cannot get one.

Minister, what suggestions do you have for increasing the number of autism assessments?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Tess White

At the start of the meeting, you said that we are struggling to effect change without the bill. The view is that you are kicking the can down the road. I accept that they are not simple, but the committee has given you some clear concrete suggestions and examples relating to assessment, measuring and having proper data. I hope that you will take those away and start to effect change as soon as possible.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Tess White

Minister, that does not help people who are on delayed discharges and need packages of care or the integration joint boards. However, as you say, we could tussle all day on that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Tess White

I look forward to seeing progress on the situations for those 84 learning disabled people who are in delayed discharge.

You touched on assessments and said that more work is needed. The committee heard concerns about waiting times for assessments and diagnosis that were not addressed in the LDAN consultation. What action is the Scottish Government taking to address a growing demand? You highlighted the huge demand for assessments.