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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 November 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Maggie Chapman

That is actually my next question. We know that the UN’s Committee on the Rights of the Child has twice in the past seven or eight years strongly recommended that we have an opt-out option. What are your thoughts on that?

Claire Benton-Evans, you have made it very clear that there should be an opt-in and an opt-out. Do you want to say anything else about that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Maggie Chapman

And all the safety issues.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, and thank you for joining us. You may have heard, in the earlier evidence session, quite a lot of discussion about the potential conflict between parents’ rights as primary educators of their children and children’s rights to free expression of their spiritual or religious development in ways that suit them.

The Scottish Government’s view of the bill is that the new process would better support UNCRC articles 12 and 14 on the right to be heard and on freedom of thought, conscience and religion. How do you see that intention to give those rights legitimacy in our laws, alongside the potential conflict with parents’ rights to be primary educators?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Maggie Chapman

Thanks very much. My final question perhaps follows on from some of Pam Gosal’s questions about consistency and the issues across the board. I hear the views about whether or not we should have RO but, given that we do, how best can headteachers, schools, local authorities and others who are having the high-level conversations about it ensure consistency, so that—as you were saying, Fraser—the principles of inclusion and of non-stigmatising and non-othering processes are universally understood? How would you go about doing that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Maggie Chapman

Yes, but as long as we have it, would that be the route?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Maggie Chapman

Okay, that is helpful. Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Maggie Chapman

Thanks, Rachel. That is really helpful. It is important for us to bear that in mind as we consider the bill. You mentioned the child’s increase in agency and the receding of parental rights as that happens. What mechanism do you envisage will enable that to be supported? Is it statutory guidance for schools, or training and support for teachers? Do we have the mechanisms in place or will they be enabled by the bill? Do we need to look at something else that will support that shift and the transfer of responsibility, I suppose, from the parent and state to the child?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful. I saw Angela O’Hagan nodding vehemently as you were speaking. Angela, do you want to come back in on that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Maggie Chapman

That is really helpful. Elaine, do you want to comment on that? You do not have to, but you are welcome to if you want to add anything.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, everyone. I am sorry that I cannot join you in person, but greetings from sunny Dundee.

Angela O’Hagan, you talked about the gap between narrative and practice and about the lack of fluency. One of the reasons why the committee started this process was to try to identify how we could close those gaps. What is your analysis or understanding of why there are still those gaps and the lack of fluency that you described?