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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 September 2026
Maggie Chapman
Please push back if this is not a fair assessment, but if we are saying that it is the support structures around the system that are important, it is clear that there are things that, from the victim’s point of view, the criminal justice system is not good at and maybe should not have to be good at, because it should not be doing those things. How do we ensure that we do not see the outcome of a criminal justice process as being the only form of justice when, in fact, what matters is all the softer, more human stuff that you have described and, ultimately, the harm reduction that comes from that?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 September 2026
Maggie Chapman
Good morning, everyone. I remind colleagues that, before I was elected, I worked for a rape crisis centre in the women’s sector.
I thank the witnesses for being here and for their contributions so far. Karyn, I will pick up where you left off on what is needed to support effective community justice. You articulated quite clearly the cycle of conviction and reconviction. How can we shift our thinking about what we measure, because, if we measure reconviction rates, that is only one element. How can we shift our thinking about measuring things such as harm reduction and substance abuse reduction? How does community justice work?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 September 2026
Maggie Chapman
Thank you for that. If I have time, I might come back to the unpaid work question.
Jackie, how do you respond to the comment about measuring success differently through how we see harm reduction coming through the process?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 September 2026
Maggie Chapman
Convener, do I have time for one tiny question?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 September 2026
Maggie Chapman
Good morning to the witnesses, and thank you very much for your comments so far.
I will start with Jimmy Paul. In its state of the nation report, the violence reduction unit found that, although only 0.9 per cent of the population experienced repeated violent crime, they experienced 61 per cent of all crime. That is an astonishingly concentrated group, and there will, I suppose, be overlapping triggers of deprivation and the rest of the things outlined in your report. In the view of the VRU, what should we be doing? Should we be focusing on that 0.9 per cent in order to prevent repeat victimisation?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 September 2026
Maggie Chapman
Dr Scott, on your point about evidence, we heard earlier from Karyn McCluskey that, for people who have community sentences, the reoffending rate is 23 or 24 per cent. For those who get custodial—
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 September 2026
Maggie Chapman
Thank you.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 September 2026
Maggie Chapman
Building on that, I wonder whether another issue is what we are measuring and counting and how we are assessing success. In this case, we might be measuring police interventions and recidivism rates, but we are not measuring how many more people we are supporting into proper accommodation and so on. Do we need a shift in thinking in that respect, too?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 23 September 2026
Maggie Chapman
Thank you for that. I have one final question, if I have time. I come back to what you touched on in response to the convener’s questions about communication. How do we ensure that, when we talk about better communication, we are talking about genuine support rather than simply better letter writing? That is what the tick-box might look like—”Yes, we have sent that information” or “We’ve had that phone call.” How important is it that there is a genuine trauma-informed approach? We now all use that term, but how do we ensure that better communication is not just better letter writing?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 23 September 2026
Maggie Chapman
I put the same question to Emma Forbes. What does success look like to you?