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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Human Rights, Equalities and Access to Services (Rural Areas)

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Maggie Chapman

Good morning. Thank you for joining us this morning.

Minister, you spoke earlier of the importance of engaging further with the SHRC and with other stakeholders. Of course, the third sector plays a vital role in delivering local services in rural areas. Those organisations often quite literally keep communities functioning and keep people well, and they are, therefore, very important stakeholders.

In the evidence that we have gathered, we have heard strong calls for partnership and meaningful engagement with third sector organisations and local communities as well as strong calls for parity of esteem—genuinely valuing third sector organisations as equal partners for the work that they do. Can you tell us a little bit more about how the Scottish Government currently engages with rural communities and the third sector organisations that provide such important services? Also, what improvements do you anticipate being made?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Human Rights, Equalities and Access to Services (Rural Areas)

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Maggie Chapman

Thank you both. Minister, you talked about the support and stability that are required by the third sector. The frustrations around single-year funding will not surprise anybody who has had any engagement with third sector organisations. They spend nine months doing the work and three months applying for funding. That does not give them stability and it does not provide service users with long-term stability or continuity. When organisations have to issue redundancy notices to staff because they do not know when or if Government funding is coming, it can utterly undermine the vital work that they are doing.

Anna Densham talked about the fairer funding pilot but we already know that multiyear funding works. We know that it is a good thing. There is already demonstrable evidence from so many different parts of the third sector that it provides exactly the support and stability that they need. We also know that the return on investment in the third sector is much higher than elsewhere in terms of value for money and delivering positive outcomes that track to work linked to the national performance framework and other things.

Therefore, how quickly can we move from that pilot to the full roll-out of multiyear funding? Also, in the meantime, how can you ensure that we are showing certain sectors within the third sector—for example, women’s aid organisations, which were highlighted as being in particularly chronic need of support—that parity of esteem and showing them that you value them as you say you do?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Interests

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Maggie Chapman

Thank you, convener. I am rector of the University of Dundee—colleagues should be aware of that. I have no other relevant interests to declare.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Human Rights, Equalities and Access to Services (Rural Areas)

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Maggie Chapman

Alan Webb, is there anything in the social security space that you would highlight in terms of access to support? You mentioned citizens advice support. Are there particular challenges that are distinct for your area?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Human Rights, Equalities and Access to Services (Rural Areas)

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Maggie Chapman

I suppose—Tess White will be familiar with this as well—where there are job opportunities, there may be housing, but there might be no local school for a family who has moved in. We need to look at this in the round.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Human Rights, Equalities and Access to Services (Rural Areas)

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Maggie Chapman

That links into what Paul McLennan was talking about: not only capacity building but broader cost of living issues. If the cost of living is higher, support services do not go as far.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Human Rights, Equalities and Access to Services (Rural Areas)

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Maggie Chapman

No—that is fine.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Human Rights, Equalities and Access to Services (Rural Areas)

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, everyone. I am a Scottish Green MSP for the North East Scotland region.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Human Rights, Equalities and Access to Services (Rural Areas)

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Maggie Chapman

On tiny little bits, yes.

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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Human Rights, Equalities and Access to Services (Rural Areas)

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us and for your comments so far.

I will focus on employment and social security issues. We have already talked about some of the barriers to employment that you have raised, such as transport, so we need not go over those again. However, there are other key challenges for rural communities in accessing support into employment and employment itself. How can we navigate around those barriers—if, indeed, that is at all possible?

I am not sure who would like to pick that up first.