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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Adapting to the Impacts of Climate Change

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

You mentioned near the start something that I have never actually heard before. You spoke about the risks and opportunities around climate change. I have never heard opportunities being mentioned before. What are those opportunities?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Adapting to the Impacts of Climate Change

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Beyond Scotland, how might impacts on climate change globally affect life in Scotland? I am thinking about such issues as supply chains and food security.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Yes, I would imagine that that would be a bit of a legal minefield—almost a lawyers’ holy grail.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Sorry, Clare, are you saying that adding negligence would not add anything at all?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you. Dr Randhawa, do you have anything to add on the deterrent effect?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I will stay with vicarious liability to start with. I am trying to understand this. If a company subcontracts work to another company, how far would liability flow up to the original company? Do you have any thoughts on that, Murdo?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Iain, you discussed whether you would go down the ecocide route or the section 40 route for prosecution. If you went down the ecocide route and that was not successful, would you then be able to go down the section 40 route?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Okay. Iain, do you share that view? Would it make your job easier if that was there?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

However, even if the law had been in place for a long time, we would not have had an issue in the past 12 years. I cannot think of an incident of ecocide that the legislation would have caught. Do we need to change behaviour if there has not been a problem up to now?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

You mentioned that the law in Belgium has not come into force yet. I do not know whether France is further down the road. Is there any evidence from France?