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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 July 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Maybe the member should listen to this.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I hope that the Government does not overturn it, because it needs to listen to communities. There are communities here today, so maybe it can listen to them later.

There are all those questions, but no one—no one—from this Government is prepared to meet community members, look them in the eye and hear their concerns. As I said, some of them are here today, so the Government still has the opportunity. We know that the cabinet secretary has not met them or heard their concerns but that she has, meanwhile, met the companies that want to build those monster pylons. When he was asked about that by Tess White last year, the First Minister was sure that ministers would meet communities, but no minister has had the bottle to do that. It is shameful.

Not only does this Government want to erect pylons in our communities, but it wants to remove residents’ right to object via the planning system, watering down the voices of our residents and removing the right to a public inquiry.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Not yet.

This is one of the most important issues that we can and should address in this chamber, and I am genuinely pleased that the Government has brought this business to Parliament today. We need more discussion about our energy future and the price that many of our communities are having to pay. Nuclear power should have a huge part to play in our energy future and would negate much of the need to have monster pylons ruining our countryside, because we could produce energy closer to where it is required. However, this anti-science devolved Government wants to turn its back on all of that.

I will give way briefly to Kevin Stewart.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Douglas Lumsden

It is shameful that the minister is laughing at the people who have come down here to protest today. [Interruption.] Only the Scottish Conservatives are standing up for the oil and gas sector. Only the Scottish Conservatives believe that we need an energy mix and are listening to the many voices from the real world, not this cloud-cuckoo-land of anti-science nonsense.

I move amendment S6M-16657.3, to leave out from “rejects” to end and insert:

“recognises the importance of renewable energy in Scotland’s future, but believes that a balanced energy mix, including investment in new nuclear power, such as small modular reactors, is essential to ensuring a secure, clean and affordable energy source by reducing the country’s reliance on foreign energy and creating a reliable energy supply for the UK; acknowledges that nuclear power is a proven, low-carbon energy source that operates independently of weather conditions, complementing the variability of renewables and reducing reliance on imported fossil fuels; notes that, while renewables will play a central role in Scotland’s energy transition, they alone cannot provide the constant, stable supply required to meet demand; acknowledges that Scotland’s oil and gas sector has been a cornerstone of the UK’s energy security and economy for decades and will continue to play a crucial role in providing reliable energy, supporting skilled jobs and driving investment in clean energy innovation; recognises the vital contribution of energy companies in leading the transition to a cleaner future through investments in emerging technologies that will underpin net zero goals while maintaining energy resilience; notes that, whilst new renewable and electrical infrastructure is needed, the right of communities to object must be respected, with wind turbines, battery energy storage systems, pylons and other infrastructure only being built where it has the express consent of residents; calls for an energy strategy that embraces renewables, nuclear and the managed use of domestic oil and gas to ensure affordable, stable and low-carbon energy for Scotland’s households and businesses, and welcomes the economic and employment opportunities that a broad-based energy mix will bring to Scotland.”

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Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Will the member take an intervention?

Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you—I will be brief.

On energy security, do you not feel that it is better that we actually produce our own gas, rather than rely on imports?

Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Does the Scottish Government have a view on zonal pricing? Is it in favour of that?

Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Douglas Lumsden

We have heard that ministers refuse to meet community groups. Will Karen Adam go and meet community groups—there are many in her constituency—who have real concerns about pylons, substations and batteries?

Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Will the member take an intervention?

Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Will the member give way?