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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 October 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Douglas Lumsden

Before I ask my final question, I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests, which states that I am still a councillor.

On the issue of linking budget to outcomes, there are ring-fenced funds that go to local government to prioritise some of the outcomes in the national planning framework. However, there are other outcomes on culture and economic development where local authorities want to do the right thing but do not feel that there is a budgetary benefit to them in the short term from doing so. Could that be addressed?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Douglas Lumsden

How do the local outcome improvement plans map to the performance framework? Is a check done to ensure that they are aligned?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Douglas Lumsden

That would interrupt the data but, according to the report, the indicators are still “in development”.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Douglas Lumsden

Of the 70 indicators, only 17, or 24 per cent, show improvement. Because they are long-term measures, should we be happy with that performance? I know that any Government would like 100 per cent improvement everywhere, but I guess that that is not realistic. Would you say that 24 per cent is a good figure?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Douglas Lumsden

Yes, but I suppose that any calls from local government for more money must be tied to the outcomes-based approach.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Covid-19 Update

Meeting date: 21 September 2021

Douglas Lumsden

I have been contacted by a student who attends the University of Dundee. She attends the library on campus and has to wear a face mask, even though she is more than 1m away from others. She then leaves the library and goes to the student union—still on campus—with the same people, but no face coverings are required. Her question to the First Minister is, where is the logic and the science behind that rule?

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

North Sea Oil and Gas

Meeting date: 15 September 2021

Douglas Lumsden

I think that Patrick Harvie is on record saying that the oil and gas industry needs to “transition or die”. That type of language is not helpful to the industry.

If Scotland’s oil and gas industry was shut down immediately, hard-working men and women, who are highly skilled and capable, would be left with no hope of work, made redundant long before any greener job alternatives were made available to them. Those are the workers we need for transition.

Let us look at what the Cambo development in particular means to the Scottish economy. It would mean 1,000 direct jobs—Labour is obviously against those jobs. It would mean thousands more jobs supported through the supply chain, more than £1 billion of capital investment in the UK over the next five years and an extra £1 billion in additional support costs over the life of the field. Some £140 million has already been invested. The Scottish Government wants to flush all that down the drain. It is not just people who are employed directly through the supply chain who benefit from such investment, given that taxi drivers, restaurants, hotels and shops all depend on it.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

North Sea Oil and Gas

Meeting date: 15 September 2021

Douglas Lumsden

I am coming on to parts of that.

We are not voting on our ambition to become a net zero nation. As Maurice Golden said, we are all agreed on that. Instead, we are voting on where the oil and gas will come from. We need that oil and gas now, and we will need it for the next 20 years. The UK is a net importer of oil and gas. We are transitioning to renewables, but that takes time and investment. I welcome the UK Government’s £16 billion North Sea transition deal, which the Scottish Government should perhaps match.

Just now, we have a choice. We can produce the oil and gas ourselves—thereby protecting thousands of jobs in this country—but regulate how it is produced and the impact on the environment, and ensure that the production is carried out with the lowest possible carbon footprint. We can invest in developing new technologies and we can innovate and learn how to do things differently. We can lead the way on cleaner energy production, share that learning internationally and become a world leader in transition.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

North Sea Oil and Gas

Meeting date: 15 September 2021

Douglas Lumsden

I will.

Alternatively, we can do what other parties are proposing and protect jobs in China and Russia, transport oil and gas halfway round the world—

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 15 September 2021

Douglas Lumsden

An alternative to ATMs for many has been to withdraw cash from their local post office, but we have seen a large number of post office closures. How will the Government ensure that our vulnerable and elderly can access their cash without being short changed by extortionate fees?