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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

In terms of the fear that the prevention agenda cannot happen because local government, which is where a lot of the prevention takes place, is having its budget squeezed.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Community Defibrillators

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests, which shows that I am still a serving councillor for Aberdeen City Council.

I thank Jenni Minto for bringing the debate to the Parliament. I enjoyed her powerful speech.

Like other members, I commend the work of community organisations in fundraising to purchase defibrillators. Likewise, I commend the work of the British Heart Foundation and others. That work has increased the number of defibrillators throughout Scotland. However, we must do all that we can to provide more support to ensure that that network of life-saving equipment is properly registered, checked and maintained. After all, it really is a matter of life or death, and that is the reason why I feel compelled to take part in the debate.

Earlier this year, a constituent of mine was in desperate need of a defibrillator. His son rushed to the defibrillator that was in their local village but, for whatever reason, it was not on the 999 system or the Circuit. He tried desperately to get it open but, without the code to unlock it, there was nothing that he could do. He was tantalisingly close and I cannot think of a crueller situation than that. Tragically, my constituent passed away. He paid the ultimate price—losing his life—and his family are left with the tortuous, traumatic thoughts of, “What if?” for the rest of their lives.

It is unacceptable that we find out that a defibrillator is not properly connected or maintained only at the point when someone calls 999 with a desperate medical need for it. Currently, local authorities regularly check life rings to ensure that they are fit for purpose. I would like the Scottish Government to provide funding to local authorities or community groups to allow them to carry out similar checks on a regular basis. Like a life ring, a defibrillator is—we hope—never needed but, in an emergency situation, we need to know that the kit is available and that it works. At that point, it is too late if it has been vandalised or broken or it suffers from another kind of fault.

Like Jackie Dunbar, I welcome the fact that Aberdeen City Council is investigating the possibility of installing defibrillators in all schools and sheltered housing locations. As she said, it is a rare moment when all parties in Aberdeen agree, but we certainly did at that time.

As has been mentioned already, too many people have undiagnosed heart conditions that cause out-of-hospital heart attacks. As Jenni Minto said, currently, only one in 10 people who suffer out-of-hospital cardiac arrest survives. We must do more to prevent that, and we can.

The work that small community groups have done to help to fund defibrillators throughout our country deserves tremendous praise, but there is a huge problem that needs the attention and resource of Government to bring in recommendations from charities such as Heart Valve Voice and other heart disease specialists. At present, too many lives are lost prematurely to heart disease in Scotland. I hope that there are steps that the Government and everyone else can take to help to tackle that.

Meeting of the Parliament

Budget 2022-23

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

We have heard at the Finance and Public Administration Committee about the importance of spend on early intervention and prevention, which the cabinet secretary mentioned. Our councils can make a huge difference in prevention, but the derisory uplift to the local government core budget is a slap in the face to authorities, which have done so much in the past year. When will the Scottish Government put its money where its mouth is and properly fund our councils?

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Scotland Loves Local

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

Does the minister feel that all shops and services should be supported, including butchers? Obviously, his Green party partners are against that.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Scotland Loves Local

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

We were trying to say that there had been problems for a long time before the pandemic, so I agree with the member on that point. We have had an SNP Government for such a long period and it has not addressed the issue.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Scotland Loves Local

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

It is rather strange to hear an SNP minister talking about how the Scottish Government can spend its money, when we see the amount of ring fencing that local government has. If the same amount of ring fencing came to a Scottish Government budget, I am sure that we would hear it talked about loudly.

We need to look at ways to exempt high streets and town centres from business rates and relax planning laws for redevelopment in those areas. Our manifesto was packed full of measures to help our high streets, which included changes to the small business bonus scheme; delaying the introduction of new non-Covid business regulations until 2023; and superfast fibre broadband to all businesses by 2027. In food production, we promised a Scotland first approach—a national food strategy to promote local produce and double the size of the food and drink sector by 2030—and a farm to fork review of Scotland’s food policy as a key element of Covid recovery.

The purpose of those policies is to boost demand for Scottish produce; strengthen the bargaining powers of producers, supporting them to upscale and export; better label Scottish produce—even clootie dumplings—and ensure that public procurement utilises Scottish produce whenever possible.

We want to promote Scottish produce at home and abroad, without fear of a Twitter onslaught or threats against those businesses. I ask the minister to join me today in condemning those who damage Scottish businesses by attacking and threatening them on social media just because they dare to promote Scottish goods in England on small business Saturday.

What we have today from the devolved Scottish Government is a motion that contains no commitments at all—no policy drivers, no help for local authorities and no funding to help our worn-out high streets. One shop owner in a small town in the Borders posted on Facebook the other day just how exhausted she was and how much the pandemic had hurt, not just financially but emotionally—she has had sleepless nights, fears of another lockdown, and worry about her staff and her supply chains.

It is not just about finances for many of those businesses, but about their heart and soul, their family businesses and the contribution that they are making to their communities. All those businesses look for is a bit of help and light at the end of the tunnel, not just warm words and platitudes.

Tomorrow, the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Economy will set out the Scottish Government budget for the next year. I hope that it will include some of the measures that I have mentioned. I hope that it will provide funding and support for our small businesses as well as a bit of reassurance about the future, which our businesses are looking for. I hope that it will also provide for the great work of our business improvement districts—I completely agree with the minister on that point—and that it will give more funding to local government so that we can get on with the business of supporting our high streets. Warm words are great, but we want action.

I move amendment S6M-02442.2, to leave out from “and welcomes” to end and insert:

“; notes with concern Scottish Retail Consortium figures, which indicate that footfall for November 2021 was down by a fifth from November 2019; recognises, however, that Scotland’s high streets and town centres were struggling long before the COVID-19 pandemic began, and calls on the Scottish Government to deliver a budget on 9 December for 2022-23 that will drive local recovery by extending 75% non-domestic rates relief to retail, leisure, newspaper and hospitality businesses, and deliver a fair funding settlement to local authorities, so that they can properly invest in regenerating and supporting high streets and town centres.”

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Scotland Loves Local

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests, which shows that I am still a councillor at Aberdeen City Council.

It is absolutely right that we recognise the contribution that our local producers continue to make to our economy and to the wellbeing of our communities. I add my congratulations to everyone who is up for an award at the event tomorrow night that the minister mentioned.

Over the past two years, businesses and citizens have been hit hard by the Covid pandemic. Figures from the Scottish Retail Consortium show that, in November, footfall in Glasgow city centre, for example, was down 22 per cent compared with that in the equivalent period in 2019. That picture has been replicated across Scotland over the past couple of years. More and more people are switching to online shopping as a result of the pandemic, with obvious consequences for our high streets. Today, the Conservative Party is offering not just welcome words but concrete policy solutions to help our struggling high streets and food sectors.

Last month, 13 industry bodies wrote to Kate Forbes asking for rates relief for retail businesses to be included in her budget tomorrow. The organisations warned the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Economy that the retail industry potentially faces scarring from the pandemic for years to come and that the many challenges that businesses are facing would be “insurmountable” without direct Scottish Government help.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Scotland Loves Local

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

Absolutely—it is fantastic that the UK Government has been able to provide the devolved Government with so much money that it has been able to offer that relief. Businesses are concerned with what will be in this year’s budget and what relief will be provided. The Scottish Government needs to listen and act on that.

In November, shop vacancy rates hit a six-year high, at 16 per cent. The latest Scottish Retail Consortium and Local Data Company figures show that, on the high street, the number of vacancies is still on the increase. The Scottish Government needs to act on that, too.

According to the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, local authorities, to which many retailers turn for help, have had a real-terms reduction in general funding of about 20 per cent, once additional obligations have been factored in. However, instead of helping local authorities to release funding for high streets, the Scottish National Party devolved Government’s solution is to further ring fence funding for projects through Holyrood diktat. No longer can local authorities focus on local solutions to local problems; instead, they have their hands tied behind their backs with ring-fenced funding for national projects.

The SNP devolved Government talks a lot about partnership working, yet the bodies that do more to protect our high streets than any others are our local authorities, and the SNP continues to reduce their funding hand over fist.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Scotland Loves Local

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

It is fantastic that the member brings up that issue, because that pedestrianisation project can go ahead only because of £20 million from the UK Government’s levelling up fund. The administration in Aberdeen is looking to enhance the area, whereas the SNP just has talk and wants to manage decline.

If the SNP were serious about protecting our communities, it would be giving local authorities the fair funding settlement that they have asked for. I hope—but doubt—that the finance secretary will have good news for our friends and colleagues in local government tomorrow.

Of course, the issues for our local high streets did not start in the past two years; they have faced challenges for the past 14 years. Many major brands have moved to out-of-town sites or online. That is another example of the SNP taking its eye off the ball.

To rebuild our communities following the pandemic, we need to tackle the long-standing problems that have emptied our high streets and undermined local businesses—high business rates, poor infrastructure and overzealous planning policy. We need to transform our high streets into more diverse places where people can go to live, work, eat, do activities and shop, but councils need Government assistance to be able to do that.

Local authorities were given the ability to introduce rate rebate schemes, which, as a leader of a local authority, I was itching to use. They were given that power, but they were not given the ability to raise funds to pay for any scheme. It was just a way for the Scottish Government to pass the buck to local authorities.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

Something that can make a huge impact on the north-east’s recovery is free port status for Aberdeen and Peterhead. Will the cabinet secretary stop playing petty politics with thousands of jobs and engage with the United Kingdom Government’s free port programme?