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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Douglas Lumsden
The figure seems to be based on the £6,500 weekly cost for secure accommodation. So, my final question is about whether the cost for a 12-year-old in secure accommodation is the same as the cost of a 17-year-old. Would we expect to see differences between those two costs?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Douglas Lumsden
So you do not anticipate that secure accommodation providers will charge more for a 17-year-old.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Douglas Lumsden
Minister, what assurances can you give local government that it will not be impacted financially by the bill?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Douglas Lumsden
Skills and training are an area that has been highlighted. Will that be covered by the updated financial memorandum?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Douglas Lumsden
Social Work Scotland was quite critical as well. It said that it
“does not consider that the Financial Memorandum sufficiently appreciates the scale and financial costs of those changes.”
Should the committee be alarmed by that statement?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Douglas Lumsden
Okay. They will, I hope, be addressed.
Police Scotland and the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service have noted that the legislation has potential cost implications for their organisations that are not reflected in the FM, but they did not give any indication of their scale. What engagement was done with Police Scotland, for example? Why did it not feel that it could elaborate on what the potential costs might be?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Douglas Lumsden
Yes, that is right. It noted that the bill has potential cost implications for the organisation that are not reflected in the financial memorandum but did not give an indication of their scale. It was strange that COPFS raised concerns but did not quantify them.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Douglas Lumsden
I will return to something that John Mason asked about, which was the lower and upper estimates of the cost of ending the keeping of under-18s in young offenders institutions. The lower cost estimate is £5.41 million and the upper cost estimate is also £5.41 million. It seems unusual that there is no difference between those two figures. Can you explain that? Is the figure completely fixed?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2023
Douglas Lumsden
Your submission also speaks about potentially being funded through the Scottish Government and local government, and it not being clear where the overlaps are, which is not an efficient way for the Government to spend its money.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 2 May 2023
Douglas Lumsden
On the point about consultation, you said in your submission:
“RTPI Scotland would advocate for consultations to include draft delivery programmes as a matter of course.”
Do you not feel that the Government would be criticised for predetermining the outcome of consultations, if that was in there?