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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Budget (Website)

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Michelle Hegarty’s point suggests that that is a lesson that has been learned: there is an overall project cost.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Budget (Website)

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

This is my last point, convener. Was the scope of the project agreed at the outset, or is that something that has been added to over multiple years?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Budget (Website)

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

My question is not about the functionality of the website but about the project initiation process and governance. Was it an agreed project and who signed it off? Was the overall cost of the project budget approved and, if so, by whom? Was the scope of the project agreed and, if so, by whom? Were the timescales of the project agreed and, if so, by whom?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Budget (Website)

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

That is a complete failing. A project has been approved without people knowing its overall cost. It almost seems as though a framework agreement has been in place, which is more like a maintenance project for a website—just adding a bit more on every year. It did not go out to tender, so you did not know what the total cost was going to be—or maybe someone did—and you did not know what the scope would be because you had not drawn it up because there was no tender process. Am I wrong?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

We spoke about decluttering earlier. I am concerned that such an office would add more clutter to the landscape.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Budget (Website)

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

It does not seem as though the corporate body had any real knowledge—it was not presented with the facts about what the project was actually going to do and what the overall cost would be. The SPCB seems to have been as much in the dark as the finance committee at that time.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Budget (Website)

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Would the corporate body know that the overall cost of the website was more than £3 million or would it just be presented with comments such as, “This year it’s going to cost £100K and next year it’s going to cost £100K more”?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Budget (Website)

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

At that time, the corporate body would not have been aware of the overall cost of the project, and the finance committee would not have been aware of the overall cost of the project. It is like me going out to buy a car; I would not buy the wheels one year and the engine the next year—I need to know how much the car is going to cost.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Budget (Website)

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

There was a tender process for the resource that was going to be used for the project, but there was not a tender process for the overall project, so no one could know what the overall project was going to cost, although maybe somebody did.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Budget (Website)

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

No, but no elected members were ever told what the complete overall costs of this project were.