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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Maybe some of that work has not been done yet, but, as you say, it will have to be done before any programme is embarked on.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

When I was a councillor, I went along to the COSLA leaders’ meetings. When the tourist tax was discussed, it was always spoken about as something that would be optional for each local authority. Additionality was another key issue. Have we now moved to a place where councils are looking at things such as the tourist tax and the parking tax not as additional sources of income, but to plug the gaps that they have?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Are COSLA members looking at the tourist tax as a way to increase spend on tourism or marketing, for example, or are they now looking at it to plug the gaps that they have?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I will move on, because I know that we are short of time. The COSLA submission talks about the gap in funding that there will be in the next five years and about it being equivalent to having 20,000 fewer local government jobs. Do you think that that is the reality that we will face in five years’ time? Will there be 20,000 fewer local government jobs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Is local government still looking at having 20,000 fewer jobs in the next five years?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

To go back to the point about early intervention, how do we better get the message across to the Government that more money being spent on local government will give savings later? Is there any way at all of quantifying that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

When we see a reconciliation of £817 million, we would think that something is going wrong somewhere.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Stephen Boyle, you said in your submission:

“structural reform in the public sector can take time to achieve and generate short-term costs.”

The Government is looking at the public sector pay bill, with a desire to keep it at a constant level. Do you see any urgency on the part of the Scottish Government to bring forward proposals? The longer the Government leaves it, the more cuts it will have to make, I imagine. Have there been discussions with the Government about when proposals will come forward?

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Tributes to Her Late Majesty the Queen

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

It is an honour to speak today. Last week, I listened to the First Minister describe the first time that she caught a glimpse of the Queen. I must admit that the earliest memory that I have of seeing the Queen was in very similar circumstances. I was just five years old when she was touring the country as part of her silver jubilee celebrations in 1977. We stayed across from Woodhill house in Aberdeen, and the Queen was set to visit and officially open the home of the then Grampian Regional Council. I was allowed to go and watch the Queen come out of the building and drive off in her big car.

I was young and I did not understand much at that age, but I understood that this was special, and that the Queen was special. As a five-year-old, I took days like that for granted, but thinking back, I was lucky. Most people would never see the Queen, but as a wee five-year-old, I had seen her, and would go on to see her on a number of other occasions—the opening of the new rooftop garden at Aberdeen royal infirmary and the opening ceremony of the sixth session of this Parliament, among others. Each time, I was a little bit older, but Her Majesty seemed to be a constant—always smiling, always speaking to people, always showing compassion, always waving and always serving. It is that public service that is so remarkable. She spent 70 years as Queen, but she gave a lifetime of service that we should all respect.

As we have heard, the Queen spent much time at Balmoral and it was clear that she had a deep admiration for Scotland. I was so proud to see the crowds give Her Majesty one last send-off as she was driven from Balmoral, through the north-east of Scotland and down to Edinburgh.

Like millions of others, I was glued to the television yesterday as the nation said one final farewell to Her Majesty. One part of the ceremony struck me like no other. It was at St George’s chapel, when the imperial crown, orb and sceptre were removed from the Queen for the last time in her 70-year reign. For me, that was special because my grandfather, Thomas Shaw, was on ceremonial duties when the Queen was crowned and given those items for the first time. We watched as they were taken from her one last time.

Queen Elizabeth’s reign was a link to many people whom we have loved and lost through the years. She was the Queen not only for the 67 million population that we have in the UK at present and the many millions more across the Commonwealth, but for the millions of loved ones who have come and gone before us. She was my Queen—a constant and a servant to our United Kingdom. That connection has now gone, but the memories will remain.

Long live the King.

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