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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 July 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Inward Investment and Export Growth Plans

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I was listening, and it was a load of rubbish.

I fear for the future of this policy, given that many of our core businesses and services rely on investment and exports for their futures.

When it comes to inward investment, businesses are looking for certainty and security, and the constant threat of another divisive independence referendum is driving investment away. At this time, supporting our recovery from the pandemic and helping businesses through the global cost of living crisis should be our main priority, not stoking division and dissent and creating borders where none should be. A border between Scotland and England would end the free movement of goods in Great Britain through the imposition of a trade border between Scotland and England, our main trading partner. Independence is never going to happen, but the constant threat of it is harming us and driving investment away.

When I was reading the investment plan last night, I thought that I had missed a chapter. The oil and gas industry has been a key part of our economy and inward investment, but this devolved Government seems to want to airbrush it out of our economy. It is clear to see, when you look at the table in the plan, that wages in the north-east are at the top when it comes to foreign-owned firms. That is down to the energy industry, but this Government seems intent on driving that investment away, just to appease its Green partners. While we still have a need for hydrocarbons, we should be supporting the industry in this country, not relying on imports from other countries. That is better for our jobs and our economy as a whole.

The Finance and Public Administration Committee constantly hears that we are underperforming compared with the rest of the UK, and a big part of that is because of what is happening in the north-east of Scotland, but it is clear that this Government has turned its back on the industry and the north-east.

We have heard a lot from this Government about the energy transition, which greatly affects the north-east, and we have had many debates in the chamber about a just transition. Given our global energy crisis, I welcome the UK Government’s pragmatic approach to developing domestic supplies of the fuel that we need while we move away from fossil fuels and towards sustainable energy. I know that the energy companies in the north-east welcome that approach and see an energy transition as the way forward. The SNP-Green Government would send them off a cliff edge, which would make us more reliant on foreign oil and gas and less able to be self-sufficient. That policy would be detrimental for the economy of the north-east; it would not increase investment but decimate it.

Once again, if this SNP-Green Government is serious about investment in Scotland and growing our exports, it should not pursue the obsession with splitting up the UK and creating uncertainty. Instead, it should support and work with the UK Government and understand that the trading might that we have as a United Kingdom is far greater than we can ever achieve if we split from our largest partner.

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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Inward Investment and Export Growth Plans

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

We got this document an hour before the debate, so I will not take any interventions.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Are you saying that, even just to meet the pay settlement that was agreed this year, savings have to be made elsewhere?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

That is because it was not fully funded by the Scottish Government, I guess.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

As does the impact of change on services and people.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Maybe some of that work has not been done yet, but, as you say, it will have to be done before any programme is embarked on.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

When I was a councillor, I went along to the COSLA leaders’ meetings. When the tourist tax was discussed, it was always spoken about as something that would be optional for each local authority. Additionality was another key issue. Have we now moved to a place where councils are looking at things such as the tourist tax and the parking tax not as additional sources of income, but to plug the gaps that they have?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Are COSLA members looking at the tourist tax as a way to increase spend on tourism or marketing, for example, or are they now looking at it to plug the gaps that they have?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I will move on, because I know that we are short of time. The COSLA submission talks about the gap in funding that there will be in the next five years and about it being equivalent to having 20,000 fewer local government jobs. Do you think that that is the reality that we will face in five years’ time? Will there be 20,000 fewer local government jobs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Is local government still looking at having 20,000 fewer jobs in the next five years?