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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Yes, I have. I want to pick up on your last point, cabinet secretary. Were you suggesting that, if ecocide could not be proved in court, a prosecution could be achieved using the 2014 act?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I am trying to think how such a provision would work. The Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service might decide to go down the ecocide route to take a case to court, but, during the trial, it might think, “We’re not going to meet the high bar for ecocide,” and decide to switch to a section 40 prosecution. Is that what you are saying? In other words, are you talking about making it possible for someone to be found not guilty of ecocide but then to be retried under section 40 of the 2014 act?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Douglas Lumsden

No. I mentioned consent or connivance.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Yes, and I suggested that neglect should be added.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Douglas Lumsden

If a contracting company was not following proper procedures and then caused an incident, where would the buck stop?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Is that explicit enough in the bill so that people understand that, or are changes needed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Douglas Lumsden

If there was no ecocide law in the rest of the United Kingdom, companies might feel that coming to Scotland would bring an added risk. Do you think that that would not be the case?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I am becoming a bit of a regular at the committee. As you said, convener, the driving force behind the petition is Margaret Reid, who was forced to act after watching her sister struggle with postpartum psychosis six years ago. Because of a senseless and arbitrary time limit—her baby was older than one—she could not go to one of Scotland’s two mother and baby units in Livingston and Glasgow. She was sent to a mixed-sex mental health ward, which was traumatic, as you would expect.

Kate Forbes has spoken about her experience with postpartum depression after she became a mum in 2022. She agreed to meet the Reid family in Dundee with the then mental health minister Maree Todd to see the hell that that woman had gone through for herself.

In a written submission to the committee in June 2024, the Minister for Social Care, Mental Wellbeing and Sport wrote:

“I remain committed to ensuring equitable, coordinated access to mental health provision for women, infants and their families throughout pregnancy and during the postnatal period; and appreciate the Committee’s interest”,

but since then there has been nothing. Nothing has been done to address the fact that access to specialist perinatal mental health support is limited to the first year following the birth of a child. That is despite the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee inquiry recommending that access should not be restricted in that way. That was four years ago.

Maree Todd was also asked about the other part of the petition, which is about establishing a mother and baby unit in the north-east of Scotland following a 2022 consultation on the options to achieve parity outside the central belt. I would dearly love to see one in Aberdeen or Dundee. The minister said that the Scottish Government was considering its response. Three years have passed since then.

Postnatal depression affects one in 10 women within a year of giving birth, according to the NHS, and suicide is a leading cause of maternal death during the year after birth, but the issue is not limited to the first year after birth. The petition merely holds the Scottish National Party Government to account for what it has promised—to ensure the same equitable and co-ordinated access that the minister wrote about.

I would appreciate members continuing to consider the petition and asking the minister to appear and provide evidence on what the Scottish Government has done to address the valid concerns that have been raised in the petition, by experts and by MSPs.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I am sticking with the topic of the costs and benefits. As was mentioned, the costs and benefits at a sectoral level are set out in the draft plan. What are your views on how those have been quantified and presented? Is there enough detail in the plan to enable us to analyse what the costs are?

I put that question to Clare Wharmby first.