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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
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Meeting of the Parliament

Budget (Scotland) (No 2) Bill: Stage 3

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Douglas Lumsden

This feels a bit like groundhog day although, in the film, Phil predicted six more weeks of winter and in Scotland we face three years more of doom and gloom under the SNP-Green devolved Government. There is extra money for local government at the last minute, from the Derek Mackay sofa—once again, groundhog day. Higher taxes, reduced local government spending, a lack of support for business and a lack of focus on economic growth paint a dismal and bleak picture for the economic prosperity of Scotland over the next couple of years, regardless of who the new leader is.

Today, I will concentrate on the crisis that is faced by our colleagues in local government. Regardless of what the Deputy First Minister says today, it is a crisis. I have been in local government and, now, the Scottish Parliament for six years, and budget time is always one of the most depressing of times. The Scottish Government tells us how great the local government settlement is; local government sets the record straight; then there is some last-minute cash, just as we have seen today. That is hardly a case of partnership working—and this year is no different.

Meeting of the Parliament

Budget (Scotland) (No 2) Bill: Stage 3

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Members say, “Oh!”, but I feel that I led a council of ambition, unlike the SNP-Lib Dem coalition that is in place just now.

Members should forget the nonsense of a real-terms budget increase. The budget is a cut to local government funding when those extra commitments are factored in.

COSLA has made a series of statements over the past few months with dire warnings over the future of services in our local communities. It has described the budget settlement as having

“a detrimental impact on vital local services”.

Over the past week, we have heard a lot about legacy. That is some legacy—cuts to local services, to the detriment of our communities. We know that many local authorities are planning for significant job losses as a result of the cut to their budget. According to a COSLA report, up to 7,000 jobs will be lost should the budget be passed today. Many of those will be in education, which we know to be in crisis.

However, the Scottish Government has now come in with threats and intimidation. Rather than funding councils properly, it is threatening to withhold funding for any that do not toe the line. One can imagine the outcry if the UK Government imposed as many conditions as this Government is imposing on the local government budget. That is shocking behaviour from this Government. Instead of valuing and working with our local government friends, it threatens and intimidates. Instead of the Government meeting COSLA leaders to discuss a way forward, they have been faced with a blank wall. Ministers are refusing to meet with leaders and are turning their backs on local government.

I welcome the U-turn today on Creative Scotland funding; I hope that the Government now recognises the value in culture. However, I did not hear anything about men’s sheds. SNP members have signed the Deputy Presiding Officer’s letter condemning cuts to the men’s shed budget, and yet they will vote today to cut that funding.

We always get warm words from SNP colleagues but, when push comes to shove, they will fall in line and vote for these appalling measures.

This budget does not plan for growth—it plans for decline. That means decline in our public services; in our councils; in our communities, towns and villages; and in the amount of money in the pockets of hard-working Scots.

Nonetheless, the Government continues to pursue policies that everyone thinks are a bad idea. The national care service is a prime example; I can only hope that the new First Minister swiftly puts a stop to that policy and diverts the money to local authorities. I welcome Ash Regan’s comments in the press today that she would pause the roll-out so we can have a proper co-design process.

Trade unions can see it, and even the SNP back benchers see it: the national care service is a disaster waiting to happen, and it will be the Scottish taxpayer who will have to pick up the tab. Delaying that vanity project until we have a new First Minister would surely be the most sensible approach.

In closing, I once again appeal to the Deputy First Minister to reconsider, even at this late stage. He should meet council leaders to discuss their concerns and listen at first hand to what the impact of the appalling cut to their finances will mean for the essential services in our communities: the impact on early intervention and prevention, social care, education, school building programmes, refuse collection, community funding, men’s sheds and music tuition in schools. He should reallocate the money that is set aside for the national care service, and he should plan for growth, reinstate the cuts to men’s sheds and give local authorities the money that they need to continue to deliver the vital services on which we all rely.

Meeting of the Parliament

Victims Awareness Week

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Yesterday, I visited an Aberdeen police station to talk to some of the officers. They spoke about the huge backlog in the courts system. Does the minister accept that that backlog adds a lot of stress to the victims of crime and that the more we can do to remove it, the better for the victims?

Meeting of the Parliament

A9 Dualling

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Douglas Lumsden

The delay to the A9 project will have a knock-on effect on other road projects. The A96 was meant to be fully dualled by 2030. Will that commitment be met?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Douglas Lumsden

If we take that a stage further, we might think of the local governance review about public bodies working closer together or possibly co-locating to get the asset base down and perhaps even reduce the headcount, as you discussed earlier with Daniel Johnson. I guess that we were expecting more information about areas such as that. Is that work on-going?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I want to ask a bit more about public sector reform. The committee was disappointed that we did not have any of the initial outcomes. The Auditor General said that public services reform is now urgent. Will you talk us through what is happening and when the committee will see the Government’s thinking on that? Will you provide the timetable for that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Douglas Lumsden

The response also does not give a timetable, which I think was what the committee was looking for.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Do you agree that all those things are vital in trying to maintain the public sector pay bill at a level close to where it is now?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Douglas Lumsden

We look forward to seeing that.

Last time you were here, Deputy First Minister, you mentioned flexibilities and moving capital to resource spend. Is there any update on whether the UK Government has given you the flexibility to do that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Do you have a plan B if that flexibility is not granted?