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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Douglas Lumsden

In terms of the demographics, I think that Graeme Roy mentioned at the start of the session that what we are seeing in Scotland and the UK is not unique. How do we compare with other countries in Europe—France and Germany, for example? Has that work been done?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Douglas Lumsden

My other question—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I can understand that when it comes to things such as homes for Ukrainians or dealing with a pandemic but not with everything else. I am from a background where you had to have a business case, so why is it not the same in Government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Your submission contains some good examples in that respect—you have mentioned the Forth crossing, and another example is Social Security Scotland—but what has been on my mind recently is the proposal for the national care service, in which we are being asked to approve the allocation of quite a lot of money without there seeming to be a business case. Have you in Audit Scotland seen a business case for the national care service, or is that something that has been lacking?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Douglas Lumsden

You talk in your submission about evaluation being carried out post hoc—I think that that was the term that was used.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Douglas Lumsden

So, reducing our waiting lists and getting more people to participate will boost the economy in both ways.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I guess that that would not be explained by people retiring early—unless we were retiring really early.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I want to pick up on a point that Daniel Johnson made earlier about business cases. In your submission, you say:

“Business cases were performed to the minimum standard or missing entirely.”

That links to what Liz Smith said about evaluation. If there is no business case at the start, how can we do an evaluation or a post-implementation review? Why would business cases be missing?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Douglas Lumsden

It would make it better for the committee and for the Government to justify the decisions that it has made.

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I thank the cabinet secretary for her answer, but if we cannot measure it, we cannot improve it. The data that we have obtained through a freedom of information request from schools in Aberdeen shows that there are huge disparities from school to school in how bullying cases are recorded. Some record only confirmed bullying incidents while others record all incidents prior to investigation.

I ask the Government to take the issue seriously and urgently issue guidelines to all local authorities so that we can start measuring the problem consistently and start improving the situation.