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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

In terms of the fear that the prevention agenda cannot happen because local government, which is where a lot of the prevention takes place, is having its budget squeezed.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

My question follows on pretty well from what Michelle Thomson said. It is good to hear that the net zero capital spending plans are in the forecast. However, I have a concern about oil and gas, and the capital plans that are under pressure not to be spent as we move forward. If those investments did not happen, what would that do to the forecast? I presume that that would have a greater impact on the Scottish economy than it would in the rest of the UK, and there would then be greater divergence between the Scottish tax intake and the intake in the rest of the UK. Has any modelling been done on what would happen if some of those new investments, especially in the North Sea, did not take place?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Douglas Lumsden

So the forecasts that you are presenting assume that many of the investments in the North Sea will take place. If they did not happen, the forecasts would have to be revised, and there would probably be a negative impact on the Scottish economy.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

Douglas Lumsden

To my mind, the local governance review provides an opportunity to break down some of the silos that you mentioned earlier. Is that your view? When will the results of the local governance review come through? Will the lessons that have been learned from the pandemic feed into the review?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

Douglas Lumsden

You are right. Tillydrone hub in Aberdeen involved a great collaboration. What is holding us back from having more of that? Is it to do with finance or is it more about banging heads together?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 30 November 2021

Douglas Lumsden

At the end of the day, it is money that often creates barriers and silos, so we are back to the point about the shift in resources. During the pandemic, there was a lot more flexibility. People said, “We’ll worry about the cash later—let’s just look after our communities.”

I hate to even think about this, but I wonder whether there could be a service level agreement in place between the NHS and local authorities, for example. When you were talking about youth justice, I was trying to think of some examples. If local authorities could spend more on youth justice, there would probably be savings for the police and in other justice areas in the future. If local authorities could spend more on sports facilities, there could be a reduction in obesity, and savings for the NHS. Is there a way of linking outcomes to the organisations that spend money on early interventions, so that there is a balance?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Douglas Lumsden

I guess that our opportunity to do something instead of just talking about it is the local governance review that you mentioned earlier. We need to find out where that is and how we can get it back on track, and to see whether we can push for change through that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Douglas Lumsden

My first question follows on from one of the convener’s questions on the £40 million extra for local government. I think that you said that that was just being given to local government for it to spend as it wishes. Last week or the week before, a pay settlement was proposed—I think that it was reported as being worth about £30 million. Is that additional money that will go to local government or will it have to come out of the £40 million that has been allocated in the budget revision?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Douglas Lumsden

Has the £40 million been allocated to local government already? Do local authorities have it in their accounts?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

Douglas Lumsden

I am just looking at the overall proposed change from the original budget of £448 million to £299 million.