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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 3 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I will be quick, because of the time. On the missing records related to the Ferguson Marine contract, how can we be assured that lessons have been learned and improvements made when it comes to record keeping and recording decisions correctly?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 3 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I will move on. I have another question about Leslie Evans. She retired at the end of the year, but was paid until the end of March. Is that correct?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 3 May 2022

Douglas Lumsden

It is my understanding that she was paid until the end of March. Is that correct? I am only trying to get my head around what she was doing that meant that she could not appear before the committee, because she was still an employee.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government’s Continuous Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 26 April 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Would decision makers and investigators take part in that process?

My concern is that there could be two individuals—an agency employee and a staff member—with identical complaints, and one complaint would be handled completely differently from the other. You have explained some of the reasons behind that. Ministers could be criticised because one complaint was not being dealt with effectively because it came from an agency worker.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government’s Continuous Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 26 April 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Would a minister still be aware that a potential complaint was being made from an agency worker?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government’s Continuous Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 26 April 2022

Douglas Lumsden

I asked about the issue of agency workers at the 25 January meeting and I still have a concern about that. I get that agency workers are not employees—they have their own employer, so the approach needs to be different. However, the new procedure says:

“Propriety & Ethics will take steps to assure that any agency worker with a concern about a Minister’s behaviour can have their issue addressed.”

Will that follow a separate procedure? Will the decision makers and investigators get involved at all in that process?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Thanks for allowing me back in, convener.

When I was reading Anna Fowlie’s blog last night, this stood out:

“We know that investing time and money in prevention is essential if we are to address poverty, inequality and climate change. We have known it for years, even decades, but we don’t make that important shift because the benefits don’t show up within that electoral cycle and it means moving spend from immediate pressures.”

I agree with that completely, but the Government claims to be taking prevention and early intervention seriously. Do you think that it is not doing enough? What more could it do on prevention?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Douglas Lumsden

The link between the NPF and the LOIP is broken; organisations that are aware of the LOIP might be less aware of the NPF, at the national level. We should combine them better so that people are aware of both, not just of one or the other. I do not know how to fix that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Should it be quite clear, as soon as there is an application for funding, how it will align with the NPF? Maybe that is something that is also missing, just now.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Douglas Lumsden

Aberdeen City Council has embedded the LOIP at the start of projects. I think that you mention in your report that it should be embedded right at the start of projects.

The way I read the situation is that it is almost as though it is measured how a project has aligned with the NPF at the end, as opposed to the question being asked right at the start how it will achieve the outcomes of the NPF. Do you have any ideas about how we could change that?