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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Michael Marra

Scotland’s more dispersed population is one of founding principles of the Barnett formula, from which we benefit as well, of course. Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Michael Marra

The two examples I used—Philip, sorry, I recognise that we are jumping about a little bit—were about people reducing their hours in the first instance. Some GPs are not working full time and are therefore contributing to massive capacity issues in GP surgeries. That has been a general trend. In the proposals that you have put in place, have you thought about whether increasing those taxes would result in people reducing their hours in key core services essential to help poor people in Scotland?

The other question was about attracting international talent, such as breast cancer surgeons in Tayside, who—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Michael Marra

I will take one step back to the questions that the convener was pushing on. Your response on tax rates was that, essentially, you believe that the jobs involved are sticky. There are two other issues in that. I was speaking to doctors yesterday at general practitioner surgeries in Dundee, and they were telling me that they do not have a head count problem but that nobody works five days, so they have a massive capacity problem and cannot deliver. That is a trend in the workforce anyway. Will the changes in the differential tax rate that you propose not impact on that?

The other thing that I have problems with in Dundee is attracting breast cancer oncologists. You will know that breast cancer rates for the poorest women are much, much worse than those for richer women, so this is actually about poor people. That is an internationally competitive sector, and we are finding it difficult to bring people to Scotland to do that. What modelling have you done or what consideration have you given to whether it is more likely that I will get breast cancer oncologists in Dundee to help those women if we increase those tax rates?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Michael Marra

Any colleague, but I think—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Michael Marra

Mr Sousa, you said in your submission:

“if one assumes that the UK Government will take action to avoid the public finances continuing on an unsustainable path, the Scottish Government’s funding gap looks very different.”

There is a gearing issue here, is there not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Michael Marra

I want to get away from the stickiness side of it, although I think that that is right. However, in this scenario, we are trying to recruit somebody internationally. Are we going to prevent the NHS from being able to do that? Again, it is a key service for the poorest people in Scotland. Have you done any work on how your proposals might have an impact on those two issues?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Michael Marra

Would anybody else like to respond?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Michael Marra

My final question might be more of an observation. On multiyear budgets, you mentioned political instability and the difficulty in 2016. I recall calls for multiyear budgets going back as far as 2010. Looking back, we thought that we had political stability, and the Scottish Government was not delivering multiyear budgets at that point. Is that something that is intrinsic to the political performance of the Scottish Parliament, our institutions and the relationship with local government? I recognise that instability is now the key driving factor, but there is a longer-term problem.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Michael Marra

Even under the relatively stable longer-term budgets, the Scottish Government still did not deliver multiyear funding settlements to Scottish public services prior to 2015. It did not do that. It says in the papers that people called for it in 2013. I am challenging this, because I worry that, although political instability in the UK is the key issue right now, if we cannot deliver multiyear funding it is a big problem. Let us hope that we can do so. Is there something about the way in which this place performs that means that people are more reactive, in setting one-year budgets? I am wondering whether we will not find multiyear funding to be the solution.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Michael Marra

I share some of my colleagues’ concerns—in particular, about the fantastical nature, to use your words, convener, of some of the numbers and, essentially, the public relations claims on some of this. My overall position aligns with the trade union colleagues we saw last week. In their view, there is insufficient engagement from the Government over some of the issues that Ross Greer has raised. However, recognising the fact that we are in a competitive regime, internationally and across the UK, and that our ports have to be competitive if they are going to attract business, I will, somewhat reluctantly, support the SSI at this stage.

The Government could do an awful lot better on exploring the options that are available to it and dealing with some of the questions that I have raised about transparency and decision making across its economic development prospectus, to make sure that we can have confidence in its decisions.