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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 April 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Michael Marra

The discussion about negotiations around public pay is useful, because it speaks to a lot of the evidence we have had from the cabinet secretary, which Craig Hoy highlighted. Public pay accounts for more than 50 per cent of the Scottish Government’s expenditure. On a strategic level—and going back to where you started, Dr Hosie, on the transparency of the budget process—the committee has found that part of the challenge is in being unable to scrutinise the overall spending of the Scottish Government in the absence of a public sector pay policy. We did not have a public sector pay policy for two years, although we have had one recently.

I am trying to pull the conversation more towards the strategic side by asking how we can improve the transparency around public sector pay in the longer term, so that we can scrutinise those bigger figures. Dave Moxham and Dr Hosie, is there more action that we could take to get the Government to be more forthright and open about the assumptions that it is working on?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

Would your organisation be concerned about recommendations to change the fiscal rules to carry more debt?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

You have touched on this a little bit already, but could you say what you think the consequences are of the fiscal rules not being met by the Government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

Do you model any potential consequences of changes to those policies?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

Okay. You mentioned that a fairly significant change to the fiscal rules was made after the election in the autumn budget. Do you think that it would have been realistic to see another set of fiscal rules at the time of the spring statement?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

What was the period running up to the changes in fiscal rules that were made back in the autumn like? Those changes must have presented you with a whole set of different work to do in terms of producing new models under the new fiscal rules. Was there a conversation with Government, or did Government bring you the rules and you then just changed the models?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

Is that fair, David?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

That is a private conversation with the Government. Okay. That is useful.

The stated policy of the Scottish Government at the moment is to pursue full fiscal autonomy. Has the Scottish Government had any conversations with the OBR as to what the process would look like?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

My last question is about the spending review that is on-going across the UK. The departmental budgets have been laid out in the UK Government’s budget, and those departments are now being asked to decide policy priorities within that funding. Is there any reason why the Scottish Government should not be conducting a spending review along the same lines now?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

When it comes to those kinds of events and externalities, even if we set aside certain things about which the Government cannot decide what it wants to do—indeed, which it seems unable to make a decision about—it could at least, with regard to the core assumptions, underlying need and so on, set out the agenda for what is required, given the country’s demographic shape, the likely tax base and where we are headed. Given that there are always going to be events, elections and so on, we might just never publish the document.