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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 February 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Marra

It was not material.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Marra

That is useful. I have a broader question about the use of ScotWind money. There is comment about that on the front page of The Scotsman today, and I believe that you spoke about it at the University of Glasgow yesterday. Is it your understanding that that money will be used for general revenue, rather than for the purposes that have been set out previously around supporting the transition to net zero?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Marra

Given the analysis from the IFS and the Fraser of Allander Institute, that looks unlikely. They are both predicting the likelihood of an in-year emergency budget—they say that that is a fair possibility, given how tight the numbers are. You say that the idea is that the Government will not draw down the money. I know that some of the allocations go into 2027-28, but it feels like one-off spending. Should we have an overall concern that the budget will not get to the end of the year?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Marra

There is also the analysis that referenced “heroic assumptions”. We have already heard that in relation to productivity, as well as some of the issues around workforce.

Let us discuss the £1.5 billion of projected savings. We previously heard a figure for that in the MTFS and the fiscal sustainability delivery plan, but, at that point, it was around £1 billion. Has the figure increased or is that just my recollection?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Marra

Two thirds of the figure is from the 3 per cent recurring savings in national health service boards, but my understanding is that that money is retained by the health boards. In what respect is that a saving to the overall budget that allows us to close the fiscal gap between projected expenditure and the amount of money that comes in?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Marra

That is useful. We seem to have taken a half step in that direction.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Marra

I was speaking at the University of Glasgow yesterday, and the anger among stakeholders from various areas was palpable because of the fact that, a week on, they still do not understand the budget allocations for their sectors. That seems to be part of the problem. We have been advocating for this to be done but, by taking a half step and not going the full distance or giving the full picture, it almost feels a bit worse than what we had previously.

Do the other professors have any comments on that? I know that the issue particularly animates Professor Spowage, and rightly so. I will give the specific example of colleges. On the day of the budget statement, the cabinet secretary made great play of colleges, claiming extra funding of £70 million. I have now heard a variety of figures. It looked like it could be £50 million, and it is now potentially down to £40 million, when you take out the amount that was allocated to the single capital project in the college estate in the past seven years or whatever. Is there any clarity on that picture and on the claim that was made versus the reality?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Marra

We can pick that up with the cabinet secretary.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Michael Marra

What if that was £90 billion?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Michael Marra

The Scottish Government makes those demands publicly, and they are clearly political demands. The permanent secretary of the Scottish Government wrote to me saying:

“In making representations at UK fiscal events it is not for the Scottish Government to undertake costing of UK Government reserved policies, nor to identify or quantify alternative revenue-raising options.”

Apparently, it is not the job of the head of the Government civil service to make those demands. It is not on you to cost them. I get that you are responsible for costing UK Government policies rather than commenting on the politics of what is happening here, but there is a missing space when one constituent part of the UK is making unfunded demands of the Government and no one is actually costing that out. Are the politics of that not a problem for the operation of the fiscal framework?