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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Marra

What is the relationship between the £1.3 billion and the £400 million with regard to the IFS statement? You are saying that it indicated certain things.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Marra

What is the figure for that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Marra

The justification for not producing a public sector pay policy last year or the year before was that the Government did not want to set a floor for negotiations. Part of the feedback in the committee’s discussions was that it might be sensible to set out some options for mitigations that could be used in the budget in the event that it exceeded the policy. In essence, the Government has given you a number that would set a floor, which you immediately think is not sufficient, but it has not done any of the other things that are needed to try to deal with that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Marra

I will ask about the more general, longer-term position. What impact does the budget have on sustainability, on which you reported previously?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Marra

The final area is the sequencing of reports. We have previously talked about the differential between the OBR’s work and your work being a significant problem, but that was in relation to the huge delays—the snapshots were being taken at different times, so there was great variation. It seems that we are, on this occasion, in a slightly better position in that regard, but that you disagree with the OBR on some of the assumptions.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 and Economic and Fiscal Forecasts

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Marra

Are you confident that there will be an MTFS in 2025?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Michael Marra

We are talking about the macro level in terms of how the Government is managing the budget, but I am thinking about the impact of that kind of up-and-down, back-and-forth approach that the Government has taken on public services. I will give you an illustration. NHS Tayside, in the region that I live in and represent, told me and my colleagues at the end of last week that, at the start of the year, it had been set a deficit cap of £37 million. A few months ago, the board told MSPs that it was going to manage about £20 million of the deficit. It went through a process of trying to understand how it could save money and then, lo and behold, at the start of November—unsurprisingly, to be frank, after the UK budget—the Scottish Government agreed, “No, you can go full hell-for-leather and have the £37 million.”

Do you agree that that up-and-down approach is not driving efficiency and promoting responsible management, and that there is actually a real cost to it? Do you think that that is the case in terms of the way that public services are managed?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Michael Marra

Do you think that, in the budget statement tomorrow, we will see the ScotWind money being put back, for instance? Is that the kind of measure that you are anticipating?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Michael Marra

I have a couple of quick questions.

On this year’s budget, I think that the committee has probably shared a little bit of your confusion, David, about where we have ended up. You identified an additional £2.6 billion in recent sets of consequentials this year, but we are being told by the Government that it has assumed that that money was coming. Is there any indication as to where we would have ended up if that money had not arrived?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Michael Marra

Finally, we have headlines in Scotland this morning about the Auditor General sounding alarm bells, which chimes closely in many regards with your recently published analysis of the NHS. However, is the overall management of the finances that I have described not part of the problem? You have described the significant uplift in finance this year. Is now not the moment to try and find a new direction and to try to change and reform services, rather than doing that when spending is decreasing or there is a huge amount of panic? Is now not the time to change direction?