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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Michael Marra

The GERS figures for 2023-24 show that the net fiscal balance was -£22.7 billion—

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Michael Marra

That is 10.4 per cent of gross domestic product.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Michael Marra

You are talking about a move to independence and the assignation of the fiscal element, but the expert opinion is that such a shift in the constitution would have significant negative effects. You are acting to pursue full fiscal autonomy, but your Government has undertaken no analysis, despite the fact that the GERS figures are your figures—

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Michael Marra

I think that it potentially would, convener. You are right in that a lot of considerable variables move in a UK budget and there is often a very tight timetable between the publishing of an autumn budget in the UK and the need for the Scottish Parliament to look at a budget before the end of the year. There is a very tight timescale in which to do that work. In the absence of longer-term fiscal statements or planning strategies, some of the known knowns—pay progression assumptions that might be made, the size of the public workforce over the following year, how many people will be involved and how much progressions are likely to account for—could be foregrounded more. A cabinet secretary has told the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee that the Government knew that the assumptions it was making on pay last year were unrealistic and that it was a paper exercise. That was a pretty frank admission from Gillian Martin.

Is it partly about the absence of an MTFS since 2023? Could that be a better process for helping people to understand the structure?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Michael Marra

The discussion about negotiations around public pay is useful, because it speaks to a lot of the evidence we have had from the cabinet secretary, which Craig Hoy highlighted. Public pay accounts for more than 50 per cent of the Scottish Government’s expenditure. On a strategic level—and going back to where you started, Dr Hosie, on the transparency of the budget process—the committee has found that part of the challenge is in being unable to scrutinise the overall spending of the Scottish Government in the absence of a public sector pay policy. We did not have a public sector pay policy for two years, although we have had one recently.

I am trying to pull the conversation more towards the strategic side by asking how we can improve the transparency around public sector pay in the longer term, so that we can scrutinise those bigger figures. Dave Moxham and Dr Hosie, is there more action that we could take to get the Government to be more forthright and open about the assumptions that it is working on?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

Would your organisation be concerned about recommendations to change the fiscal rules to carry more debt?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

You have touched on this a little bit already, but could you say what you think the consequences are of the fiscal rules not being met by the Government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

Do you model any potential consequences of changes to those policies?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

Okay. You mentioned that a fairly significant change to the fiscal rules was made after the election in the autumn budget. Do you think that it would have been realistic to see another set of fiscal rules at the time of the spring statement?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

Michael Marra

What was the period running up to the changes in fiscal rules that were made back in the autumn like? Those changes must have presented you with a whole set of different work to do in terms of producing new models under the new fiscal rules. Was there a conversation with Government, or did Government bring you the rules and you then just changed the models?