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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Michael Marra

I thank everyone for today’s evidence so far, which has been pretty concerning but has provided us with a lot of clarity on some of the impacts. It has been very useful.

I will touch on research on completion rates, which has been presented to us by our colleagues from the Scottish Parliament information centre. Before the pandemic, non-completion of courses was around 24 per cent but, post-pandemic, that has risen to 28 per cent. What is the sector doing to deal with that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Michael Marra

Angela, is it a yes or a no from you?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Michael Marra

Is it your expectation that the documents that you are producing, critical as they are, will inform the reform process that the SFC is undertaking?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Michael Marra

I think that we hear that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Michael Marra

I want to go back to the statement of intent. It strikes me that that is in response to the review of coherent provision and sustainability in the tertiary sector, but a plethora of other documents have been produced and a plethora of suggestions have been made in recent years. Have any of the four of you been involved in discussions about what the statement of intent might include?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Michael Marra

If I might interrupt—I am sorry, Joanna—I am referring to the results from this year, which are relevant to the operating conditions. Is there an indication that there is any form of resource, or expectation of support, for the cohort that is leaving school this year, who have just received their grades and are coming into college, starting this week or last week? Are you making up for their loss of learning? Is that being quantified or measured by the SFC? Is it appreciated that the SQA expects you to do that work? Is there no such indication?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Michael Marra

Ann, do you have any comments on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Michael Marra

That would be a no. That is useful and interesting.

It is my understanding that a group of in excess of 20 civil servants is working on that in St Andrew’s house or some Scottish Government office somewhere, but there is also another group of civil servants in the Scottish Funding Council that is working on the same issue to try to produce something. You are all leaders, and you all bring experience to the table. Do you have any insight into the process that those civil servants might be following or into how the Government is making those strategic decisions?

I see that the answer is no. That is quite concerning.

Going back to the previous panel, we heard from the principal of Glasgow Kelvin College pretty concerning evidence, to say the least—in fact, I thought that it was quite devastating evidence—that he was projecting the loss of a quarter of his workforce as a result of the cuts that are being brought in. Have you had the opportunity to feed those kinds of headwinds—if I can use that euphemism—into the process? Have you had the opportunity to input those kinds of issues into the process?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Michael Marra

A yes or a no would be useful.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Michael Marra

I may bring in Sue Macfarlane, in a second, if she has further comments. The information that we have indicates that an increase in non-completion is related to the pandemic. There would seem to be a problem. It is great to hear that there may be some evidence that those things are being tackled. However, it would seem that the non-completion rates have remained high—I would go as far as to say that they have remained very high—for a very long time. It is quite difficult to draw a comparison, but the best information that we have indicates that the completion rate in England is far higher. Does the sector recognise that?

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