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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Michael Marra

It is my understanding that the Scottish Government has a legal duty to ensure, through the universities, that there is accommodation and support for students under the age of 18. Do you understand that to be the case?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Michael Marra

There is an emergency situation at the moment, with people not able to find accommodation and having to withdraw from courses. I think that most people would agree that that is completely unacceptable.

I want to ask a couple of questions about the longer term. Why are we here? Mary Senior has already touched on some of that in relation to the business model. It strikes me that universities are caught in a growth cycle—they have to continue to grow in order to plug funding gaps. Do you have any confidence that the situation will not get worse again next year? Is that just the path that we are on, or is there any sign that we can get off that escalator and deal with the problems?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Michael Marra

I am keen to ask about the focus on the long term. You mentioned research capture from UKRI. The trend in that is not going in a good direction. It is going down, is it not, Professor Boyne?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Michael Marra

I agree with the comments about the doomsday cult at Westminster and the budget approach that the UK Government is taking, but one reason for the Scottish Government having a big gap in its funding is its failure to grow the Scottish economy, which means that there are hundreds of millions of pounds in lost tax revenue. You talked about the need for a bigger pie. How important are universities to growing the size of the Scottish economy and growing our tax receipts?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Michael Marra

On the pressure on social infrastructure—housing for students who have come to Aberdeen and primary school places for their children—are you planning? It does not feel to me as if those pressures are being planned for appropriately.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Michael Marra

We had a series of college principals in front of us last week who told us that the SFC was asking them to assume that there would be a 2 per cent uplift in pay. In their view—in everyone’s view, I think—that is deeply unrealistic; it is not happening. You are not making the same assumption about universities, are you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Michael Marra

It does not feel as if that balance works at the moment, given some of the evidence we have heard today. I understand that the issue does not sit on your desk, however.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Michael Marra

In the years ahead, we are looking at very significant real-terms cuts to university funding on the teaching and research side. Ellie Gomersall, do you have hopes or signs from your members in the NUS that the situation might improve? What level of response do we require from the Government in order to change the situation?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Michael Marra

The current operational context is very important when we are reflecting on this. In our previous meeting, we took evidence from the SQA regarding outcomes. I was keen to understand the issues relating to lost learning. Students have had a reduced curriculum and have not had the experiences that they might have had. Referring to what the college sector could do in relation to lost learning, Robert Quinn from the SQA said in response to one of my questions:

“I feel strongly that it should be well placed to provide support.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 7 September 2022; c 12.]

Has the SFC asked you to give any indication of what additional support you can provide to make up for lost learning at any point?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 September 2022

Michael Marra

That is useful and specific.

I have a question on the widening access agenda, which connects to Sue Macfarlane’s comment about how we measure success. My understanding is that the widening access agenda is judged by inputs—in essence, the number of students who are recruited rather than those who complete. Would we have been better talking about the number of those who complete, at least in addition to the number who are recruited?

I have talked about non-completion sitting at 27 per cent but, for students in the widening access cohorts—those from the lowest SIMD areas—that soars to 36 per cent. Collectively, we understand some of the reasons for, and challenges around, that situation but, on how we understand success, would reporting on completion figures for the widening access cohorts be an appropriate metric to add?