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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Michael Marra

I am sorry, but I think that we might be talking slightly at cross-purposes. I am not talking about the SFC report but about the letters of requirement that are being sent to colleges telling them what they have to do with the money that is allocated to them. The SFC has produced a report about reform. I am concerned about the amount of money that is allocated and what colleges are being asked to do in the coming year. It is not realistic, is it? Colleges cannot cut posts and do the same job as they did last year.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Michael Marra

My question is about access to university. Colleges are a critical part of that; Peter Scott referred to his report and some of his important work in that area. Following your report, some reports this morning are saying that the First Minister has said that Scotland is leading the way in university access, but this year’s Universities and Colleges Admissions Service’s figures show that the application rate from people from disadvantaged backgrounds in Scotland is 35.4 per cent, in Wales it is 37.5 per cent, in England it is 44.1 per cent, and in Northern Ireland it is 52.6 per cent. Do you agree with the First Minister that we are “leading the way”?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Michael Marra

We should do that work prior to a further round of reform, should we not? If we are talking about outcomes, we should plan what we want to achieve and find the pathways to do it. Would that be the sensible approach?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Michael Marra

I will perhaps bring in Nora Senior, as well, off the back of this question. The success rates, as I have qualified them, of large colleges range from 52.7 to 73.6 per cent, and those of small colleges range from 59.7 to 70.4 per cent. There is a lower floor in larger colleges. I recognised one statistic; there will be a wealth of other things that we could look at, but the statistics seem to indicate that the direction of travel in recent years, in respect of the outcomes, is that there is a pretty significant gap of 7 per cent in young people getting qualifications to help them to advance in their lives, and the floor is a lot lower in the larger colleges. There seems to be a greater propensity for people not to achieve. Do you recognise that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Michael Marra

Does Nora Senior have any comments on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Michael Marra

Nora, do you have anything to add?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Michael Marra

It is FE, from which 61.3 per cent of people left with the qualifications that they started out to achieve and a further 11 per cent did not achieve the qualifications that they desired when they started their courses. It is about who is being recruited and who is completing courses.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Michael Marra

In the light of the written evidence that has been submitted, I worry about the fact that although we talk a lot about coherence and about how different parts of the tertiary sector work together, we have an Audit Scotland report that discusses the issues that Nora Senior has mentioned and which is utterly damning of the Government’s approach and the complete lack of leadership on skills alignment. As well as the Cumberford-Little report and “The Scottish College of the Future” report, we have the Scottish Funding Council review of coherent provision and sustainability. In addition, we have a team in the Scottish Government, which has swollen to more than 20 civil servants, that is desperately seeking an idea about what to do.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Michael Marra

I am looking for an insight, convener. People have said to me that there is real frustration. They see those developments going on in different places and they wonder whether the policy making is coherent.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Michael Marra

My questions follow some of Mr Dey’s. I am trying to evaluate the idea of regionalisation and what the next steps are, and I am keen to focus on outcomes for young people. A lot of the evidence that we have had is about inputs, such as the number of young people attending universities. In 2020-21, the successful completion rate in Scotland was 61.3 per cent, whereas the roughly comparable figure in England was 89 per cent. Why does that gap exist?