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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 February 2026
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

That is probably the most important thing: to ensure that they have that diagnosis. Have you or Dr Crabb looked into the transgender aspect at all or done any work around it?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I thank the witnesses for all the information that they have provided so far. I have two questions. My first question is on employment, which a number of you have touched on in relation to reasonable adjustments. It is estimated that the employment rate for autistic people is only 29 per cent, whereas Scotland’s national employment rate is 82.5 per cent and, for non-disabled people, is 50.7 per cent. Those figures show how much lower the employment rate is for autistic people. How can we help autistic people not just to enter the workforce but to remain in it over the long term?

A number of you mentioned the support that you need. Sofia Farzana, you mentioned how getting interview questions beforehand would make it easier. It would be good to hear from everybody on what additional things could help you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I have one more question, which is probably more directed to Sofia Farzana, but it is also open to anyone else who wants to come in.

The National Autistic Society has conducted research on why a large number of black and ethnic minority autistic people are not getting the support that they need. One of its observations was that disability can be stigmatised in certain communities and is sometimes blamed on the parents. It was also interesting to hear that some families said that they initially refused to acknowledge that their child was autistic. How can we ensure that BAME neurodivergent people get the support they need?

Sofia, I know that we touched on this issue.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you very much for sharing so much, especially about your experiences.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Good morning. Before I ask my main question, I have a question on the diagnosis side. NHS England has been considering plans to test children who identify as transgender for autism. That was one of the Cass review’s recommendations, which the Government claims to have accepted. Studies have found that those who identify as trans are three to six times more likely to receive an autism diagnosis. Do you believe that NHS Scotland should look into that as well?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Is there anything that you would like to add, Dr Boeing?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Thank you for that. I will now move on to my main question.

What engagement have you had with the Scottish Government and with other public bodies regarding your report? How has it been received by autistic people and people with ADHD in Scotland?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

You are currently looking at that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

You know the importance of clarity in that regard when collecting that data for equality monitoring. At the moment, that is one area in which there is a big gap. Are you fully aware of that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

It is good to hear that you place importance on that—that having that monitoring, and having good data on biological sex, is important. Do you agree that the Scottish Government should therefore withdraw the 2021 guidance, which still encourages data collection based on self-ID?