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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 March 2026
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

Stephanie Callaghan has questions on proportionate universalism.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

The committee can perhaps take the issue up with the minister after the evidence session. I am conscious of the time.

I call Sandesh Gulhane for a brief supplementary, after which we will move on to our next theme.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

Emma Harper has a supplementary, after which I ask her to move on to our next theme, which is health in all policies.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

I call David Torrance.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

Thank you, minister. I invite questions from committee members on the regulations.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

You and I could go back and forth on that, minister, because I think that the feeling on the ground in local government is that Scottish Government decision making, and the choices that have been made, have also had a huge impact. I am thinking in particular of the underfunding of Scottish Government-led initiatives, some of which we have discussed this morning. Nevertheless, I am very conscious of the time allowed to the committee this morning. As I have said, we could have a further discussion on funding, but I think that we have both made our points and they are now on the record.

I know that Gillian Mackay has a supplementary on this theme, so I am willing to give her the last word.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

That concludes our questions. Thank you, minister, for your contributions.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

We will move on to discuss our final theme this morning: the pandemic and the cost of living crisis. What is the Scottish Government doing to ensure that those who are already vulnerable and who have been affected by health inequalities are not further disadvantaged during Covid recovery and the cost of living crisis?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

The fifth item on our agenda is consideration of two negative instruments, which were laid on Thursday 16 June and came into force on the same day. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee considered the instruments at its meeting this morning. It decided to draw them to the attention of the Parliament on reporting ground (j) for failure to comply with laying requirements in section 28(2) of the Interpretation and Legislative Reform (Scotland) Act 2010. However, the DPLRC is content with the explanation provided by the Scottish Government for failure to comply with the laying requirements.

The first instrument is the National Health Service (Charges to Overseas Visitors) (Scotland) Amendment (No 2) Regulations 2022. It ensures that certain NHS services for any overseas visitor who requires diagnosis or treatment for monkeypox are provided without charge to that overseas visitor.

No motions to annul have been received in relation to the instrument.

As no member has any ?comments,?I propose that the committee does not make any?recommendations in relation to the?instrument.?Do members agree with that?

Members indicated agreement.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Social Care Charges

Meeting date: 22 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

I am coming to that point. My colleague Jackie Baillie made the point that there is already ministerial direction on ring-fenced spending and that ministers are the final arbiter on decisions that are made by IJBs. IJBs are not just councils; they are also health boards and they have health board members.

Colleagues on the Labour benches have set out, time and again, how charges could be ended immediately. Indeed, we provided a costed budget in December, which allowed us to implement the recommendations in the Feeley review using consequentials. Today, because of ministers’ inaction and their unwillingness to use consequentials, we have set out how that can be done with the vast level of reserves that sit in health and social care partnerships.

For people who pay those care charges, the policy will be transformative, as it will lift a heavy burden from their shoulders. However, it seems that the SNP and the Scottish Greens are not willing to support such a measure, which would make a real and tangible difference to life for so many people. It is a case of them, once again, sticking their heads in the sand, despite the promise that the SNP made in its manifesto for the council elections last year that it would end the costs of non-residential care.

Even before that, the previous Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care promised, at the start of 2021, to work as quickly as was practicable to end all charges.