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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 January 2026
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

Good morning. I thank the witnesses for their presentations, which were informative. All the evidence that we have heard, including in the informal sessions, has been useful and insightful.

I am keen to talk about culture in our public services and in service delivery. In the evidence from the group from the Hub in Dumfries and Galloway, someone talked about

“judgmental and uncompassionate public services”,

and they described those as “punitive rather than supportive”.

Obviously, we can see direct links to the issues that Dr Sharon Wright talked about in the social security system more widely. Is that also people’s experience of other public services that exist, whether in the NHS or in local authority housing provision? It is stark when people say that the network of support that we all want to be there to help people is perhaps doing the opposite, and when they feel that it is judgmental.

How do we begin to shift that culture? We have had undertakings on what the Scottish Government is trying to do through Social Security Scotland and undertakings in the local government sphere, but what more can we do to have a culture shift away from that sort of experience?

Given that those comments came from the Hub, I ask Karen Lewis to start.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

I will comment briefly on mental health. Both your answers alluded to the multiple and diverse challenges that exist for people. I am keen to understand whether the witnesses feel that front-line workers who support people have enough training on understanding mental health issues, particularly on trying to identify and triage someone who might have mental health issues. That brings us back to the no wrong door approach, trying to take a holistic view of a person and trying to meet them where they are when they interact with services. We have done some of that, but I am not sure that we have done enough. I am keen to get a sense of whether people think that we need to do more and how we might do it across the piece.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Business Motion

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

I could not connect, and I would have voted yes.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I could not connect. I would have voted yes.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Education Reform Update

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

With a rising attainment gap, lower levels of attainment funding and an organisation that the cabinet secretary has deemed not fit for purpose leading our assessments—although apparently we should not criticise business as usual—is she not disappointed and frustrated by her lack of pace in implementing the reforms? They will seek to undo the damage of Scottish National Party reforms since 2007, of which there are too many to list.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Business Motion

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

On a point of order, Presiding Officer.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Benefits of Independence

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

The paper is light on detail and heavy on cherry-picked examples, but the First Minister confirmed one thing today when she said:

“If we are in the Single Market, and the rest of the UK is outside the Single Market, then yes there are issues in terms of regulatory and customs requirements”.

The Government paints a rosy picture of trading bliss within the EU, but glosses over the barriers and challenges that lie in the way. The paper that was published today says next to nothing about the actual practicalities of independence. Will the cabinet secretary take the opportunity now to confirm to the democratically elected members of the Parliament, as the First Minister did in her answer to a journalist, that with independence, there would be a hard border between Scotland and the rest of the UK? What analysis has the Government done on the impact that that would have on Scotland’s businesses, economy and wider public services?

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect, and I would have voted yes.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I could not connect. I would have voted yes.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

General Question Time

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Paul O'Kane

Since I lodged this question, as the cabinet secretary refers to, reports have shown that, yet again, there has been an increase to waiting lists, and there are now over 700,000 people waiting. Long before the pandemic, data was showing that NHS waiting lists were rising year on year; 120,000 people were waiting in March 2020. The cumulative impact of waiting lists clearly shows that the Government’s recovery plan is not robust enough to tackle this significant challenge.

Will the cabinet secretary commit today to real and meaningful action to tackle delayed discharge; to implement a real NHS cancer plan, including funding for more temporary clinics and dedicated treatment centres; and to proper pay and conditions for staff in health and social care?