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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 November 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I will also ask about private homes. Our understanding is that, if you are in a private home within the buffer zone, you cannot put graphic images or other such protest material or pro-abortion material—it goes either way—in your windows or around your garden to influence people. Is that proportionate and is it the same in other jurisdictions, such as England and Wales and Northern Ireland?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I will open that question up to the rest of the panel. Do you feel that the private home section of the bill is proportionate?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Absolutely. The bill includes the 200m zone, and it includes what happens in people’s own residences. I would like to hear the witnesses’ opinions about the decision to say what people can and cannot do in their homes, given that we are talking about banning of picketing and of using pictures of fetuses in the street, for example. It seems to be sensible to include that, but my understanding is that the bill would be the only such legislation that includes people’s homes or private residences. What is your opinion of that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Can I ask a question specifically about that? If one was stopped while driving a car, would the police officer not be entitled to ask, “Do you know why I have stopped you?” Is that not similar?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

That is a huge concern to me. The situation may be obvious at the Chalmers centre in Edinburgh, for instance, because there are only so many services that are provided there, but I am not sure that it is the point of the bill to prevent people from turning up to protest about other issues at a big hospital that provides a lot of services. Are there any mitigations or ways that we could prevent such protests from coming under the bill?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I am sorry, but could you explain the ballot part of that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I want to pick up on what Chris Provan said about the potential for protesting outside general practices. We all do abortion in some way, whether through referral, or a doctor who has conscientious objections asking a colleague to take a patient. Would not a 200m zone around every general practice be quite a lot?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I want to go back to the question about silent prayer. We have already heard that the impact that that has had on people has been described to us at a previous session. If someone calls to say that there are five people standing in a circle, how can you, as the police, deal with that if you are not going to ask them what they are doing and whether they are protesting or praying?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

That neatly comes on to my question to Simon Brown and Gerry Corrigan. Is it the case that you have to put down the name of the person who has made the complaint or, for the purposes of this legislation, could it just be the department, the area or the place, as Sarah Wallage has just said?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Professor Cameron, I will also put this question to the solicitor who will give evidence in the next group of witnesses.

If the bill is passed, somebody will have to pick up the phone and call the police if something distressing happens or if there are protesters, and they will have their name recorded, whoever they might be. Might that put people off, or has it put people off, calling the police?