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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

As would I. Prevention is always more appropriate than cure—I think that that is the phrase. However, having the power to do something and having the resources and capacity to deliver on that power are two different things. Is the minister confident that local authorities will have the resources and capacity to deliver the power that she is hoping to give them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Forgive me, Mr McCaffrey, but is that not why we have passed new legislation since 1995, which was a long time ago? If that bill had been tight enough on children’s rights, we would not necessarily have needed parts of the UNCRC, but we did, and we have this new bill, which is surely an opportunity. You have said that we are not starting from scratch, but this is a new bill, so you could include the UNCRC and those particular areas in it.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Forgive me, minister, but I am slightly confused. What appears to have been said is that we cannot introduce any legislation that includes provisions on further rights that are set out by the UNCRC, because we cannot tinker with any previous legislation. Have I misunderstood? Is that your understanding?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

My question was whether those provisions would be justiciable against the UNCRC standards of participation, best interests and non-discrimination.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Other members will touch on finances, so I will leave that thread there.

You spoke about a pathway for care leavers into housing. Would you consider putting that on a statutory footing?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It does not really help, I am sorry to say. I understand that these matters are complex, and it has taken many people many months—years, in some cases—to come up with suggestions on them. At this point in parliamentary scrutiny, however, detail matters, and people watching this session will be looking to understand the Government’s intent. Does the Government intend to make one person able to decide on someone’s liberty? Does it intend to make one person able to decide on grounds? Is that what the Government intends? Not having answers to those questions at this late stage in the game makes it quite difficult for the committee to do its required scrutiny.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Someone has to take responsibility for the leadership for it, though.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It would be helpful for the committee to have that information, so that we can understand a little more about the expectations.

Will there be an appeal or review route?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

How, then, will you support local government to take action in areas such as housing, so that there are tangible differences to the lives of young people with care experiences?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Has the minister raised these issues in the budget process and the settlement for local government?