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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 September 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. I have no other questions.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I take the point about the data being available, and I sincerely hope that it will be, given what we have heard about the February payment already being too late, but I do not accept that we are having to rush this through. We have had powers over social security in Scotland for a significant number of years and here we are with an opportunity to redesign a benefit, but—yet again—we have fallen short.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

We heard this morning about the support that you have put in place for people across Scotland, and, of course, we welcome the payments that are available here. We will all do what we can to make sure people access them through communication. However, I agree with Energy Action Scotland that it is

“like a finger in a dam.”—[Official Report, Social Justice and Social Security Committee, 8 December 2022; col 13.]

When it comes to fuel poverty, we really are falling short for too many people in Scotland. Energy Action Scotland estimates that, even with the financial support, a lot of which has been described this morning, including changes to benefits in Social Security Scotland, one in three households in Scotland will be in fuel poverty by April next year, and one in four will be in extreme fuel poverty. In its submission, it says:

“Higher costs, with inadequate financial support will lead to an increase in excess winter mortality”.

Of the Scottish Government payments, it says:

“None of which recover a position for any household … The Scottish Government through its fuel insecurity fund has provided crisis payments to a relatively small number of households. Important for those that received them but insufficient”.

It concludes that the available support is a patchwork, with one-off payments being normalised and poor targeting. Can the minister commit to reviewing the fuel payments landscape in Scotland to help struggling families today?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It is clear that none of the payments described this morning has addressed the real fuel insecurity and poverty that people across Scotland are experiencing. I was also going to mention the child winter heating payment issue that my colleague Jeremy Balfour mentioned. A number of disabled people, regardless of their age or level of impairment, are having to use more heating now than before, so they are disproportionately impacted by this. The reality is that, from what we have heard in this committee and from what people have told us in our constituencies, they do not have enough money to get by and none of what we are doing in Scotland is getting there. It is like a finger in a dam, as we have been told. Can you commit to reviewing that landscape, very quickly, and to starting to address the fuel poverty that people in Scotland are going to experience?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That was really clear. Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. That was really clear.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning, witnesses, and thank you very much for everything that you have shared. Thanks to Richy Edwards, in particular. Your testimony was much appreciated. I can imagine that it must have been very difficult to share that, especially since you have had to do so time and time again, so thank you.

I will pick up on part of the discussion that we just had, and then I have another couple of questions. We have already discussed the importance of education after the bill is introduced. That will be an absolutely essential non-legislative measure, but we also need to reach into various communities before the bill is introduced, given the context—which some of you have mentioned—of LGBT people’s rights and the pushback that there is. I hope that there is room to do that, so that we can try our best to take people with us. Do you agree that that is quite important?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do you mean that people report crimes to the police but they do not get support to use Makaton or to express themselves so their cases never reach court because they do not quite reach the bar for the amount of evidence that is needed?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Dr Behrens made a point about gender identity. The United Kingdom Government has made some comments about a ban on conversion practices covering only sexual orientation, not gender identity, saying that such a move would be too complicated at this time. What is your view on that statement?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The question that I was going to ask before I heard some of the conversation was whether, in your view, the Scottish Government has the power under devolved legislation to deliver the full and comprehensive ban that is needed.