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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that. I found the report helpful, including the detail on the sensitive approach, as you have set out. Are you able to set out what the results would have been had you not applied the sensitive approach?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Can you explain the rise in entries to work courses and for the national progression award?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

We do. That is a really good example, so thank you for sharing it. We are seeing that those particular awards are helpful. That diversification is important, not only because the OECD picked it out but because we understand that that is what young people want. It is also important for us to know who is going forward and being presented for those awards, as opposed to those who are being presented elsewhere, to check whether there are any patterns that may need to be looked at further.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

My colleague Ross Greer has covered the topic in some detail. I just want to check something. I think that you said that three in 10 appeals are successful through the alternative evidence approach and that that is higher than the number of appeals that are successful through the script approach. Is that what you said?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

How do you know which parts of the sensitive approach helped and which were unhelpful? How do you know that they are not needed into the following year?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do we know anything about the demographics of the people who are going forward in those circumstances?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The Morgan report talks about expenditure on additional support for learning, and it says that it is

“one of the areas of most unpredictable local authority spend”.

It goes on to say that

“it tends to be overlooked at corporate level in local authorities due to the focus on the other very real challenges of providing adult and older people services.”

Why is ASN being overlooked in local government expenditure in that way?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

If they are not co-ordinated support plans, what are they, and what is the statutory basis for them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

A lot of that relies on tenacious parents. My office has gone back to councils and has asked them to look at things differently, but they very rarely do.

The work with Audit Scotland on that is important, because it looks at the strategic answer, as opposed to relying on individuals who are already overstretched and, in some cases, burst, to be honest. How are the conversations with Audit Scotland progressing to ensure that it includes that work in its auditing of schools?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I want to ask a question about some of the findings of the Morgan review. First, I will read out a couple of quotes, which you will probably already have seen. Douglas Hutchison said:

“I might have Miss Honey this year as my teacher: she is a great teacher and I do not have any problems. Next year, however, I might have Miss Trunchbull. Suddenly, I have additional support needs, because she is not helping me to access the curriculum. I have not changed; the external environment has changed.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 19 January 2022; c 35.]

In her review, Morgan said:

“Where openness and transparency are not in place, the risks are of a culture of blame and/or a culture that lacks robust accountability for practice with vulnerable children and young people.”

In addition, at our predecessor committee, she said:

“I found that the system is overly dependent on those individuals, and it is fragmented and inconsistent.”—[Official Report, Education and Skills Committee, 18 November 2020; c 2.]

That does not feel like a sufficient system. To me, that is quite disappointing. Why is the system so varied, and what would need to change to address that?