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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Yes, but my question is different. It is about killing the deer.

I am aware that work is being done on a potential ban on lead shot, or on the large-calibre bullets that are used for deer management. I know that we do not necessarily need legislation for that, but I wonder whether you are considering that in the work that you are doing around deer management in the bill. Are you considering the need to switch in relation to how we kill the deer on the hill if they are going for human consumption?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Will you repeat the names of those two topics?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

On the issue of positive outcomes for the public sector, I hear your point about things already being in place and I know that national planning framework 4 includes a biodiversity policy, but, although we have those policies, what I see on the ground is that things are not actually happening at the local level. I also hear what you are saying about onerous reporting—we do not want to place more reporting duties on local authorities, for example—but how do we get our aim of meeting the 2030 targets to flow through the system? Targets can be a good way of setting a focus.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is helpful. What led to the inclusion in section 20 of provisions for a legal defence for actions that are taken to prevent deer from causing harm?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I am going to go into the space of preventing damage by deer. Hugh Dignon started to go into that in responding to the convener earlier, but I have some questions on the subject that line up with sections 19 and 20. What prompted the need for the changes in the bill regarding the prevention of damage by deer?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

While we are in the space around deer larders and people eating venison—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thanks. I will follow on from that. How might the environmental non-regression provisions in the trade and co-operation agreement between the United Kingdom and the EU interact with the Scottish Government’s use of the powers in this instance, if the regimes were amended in a way that no longer aligned with EU law?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I am trying to get clarity. I think that I agree with you about not having a target, because we do not want an extra and onerous level of reporting, but how are we actually going to get biodiversity transformation on the ground where there are ingrained practices and ways of doing things despite there already being biodiversity strategies in local authorities?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for describing that process. So, you had that long list and then there was a sifting process. Which of the topic areas that were proposed by the programme advisory board were not taken forward in the bill? Is it likely that we might see amendments at stage 2?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I will pick up on both of those targets.

Regarding investment in nature, do we need to have something to regulate that process, even if that is not done through the bill?