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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 September 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

At the start of the meeting, we agreed to take the next two items in private. As we have no more public business, I close the public part of the meeting.

11:41 Meeting continued in private until 12:31.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for finding the relevant document. We move to questions from Willie Coffey.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

That concludes our questions. Thank you, minister, for coming in. It has been helpful and illuminating to hear what you have had to say.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

I suspend the meeting briefly for our visitors to leave the room.

11:40 Meeting suspended.  

11:41 On resuming—  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

You say that the bill should “start again”. In what way should it start again?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Under agenda item 2, we will take evidence, as a secondary committee, on the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. We will hear from two panels of witnesses.

For our first panel, we are joined by Simon Cameron, from the workforce and corporate policy team at the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities; Gerry Cornes, workforce portfolio lead at the Society of Local Authority Chief Executives and Senior Managers Scotland; Tracey Dalling, Unison Scotland’s regional secretary; and Jane Fowler, president of the Society of Personnel and Development Scotland. I welcome our witnesses to the meeting.

I will ask the first questions. I will begin with a broad look at the bill overall. Last week, the committee heard from local government and third sector organisations. Although they were concerned about some aspects of the bill, most witnesses welcomed parts of it. What are the witnesses’ general views on the aims of the bill?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Is it your sense that, at the moment, we are not monitoring well enough?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Good morning, and thank you for being with us. You might have already answered my question, but I will come at the issue from a slightly different angle and see what comes out of that.

In a response to the committee, the Scottish Crofting Federation wrote about the damage that wild geese can cause to high nature value land and the world-renowned biodiversity on crofts and farms in crofting areas. Therefore, I would appreciate your professional opinion on how much of the land on crofting areas is of high nature value and world renowned for biodiversity, given that, in the biodiversity intactness index, Scotland is, sadly, 28th from the bottom out of more than 200 countries.

That is the first part of my question. The second part of it is the bit that you might have already answered. I would also appreciate your opinion on whether further reductions in wild geese populations are the best way to protect and enhance biodiversity in such areas. Is it the case that alternative measures might be more effective or should be taken alongside goose management programmes?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

We turn to agenda item 2, which is to take evidence as a secondary committee on the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. We will be joined by three panels of witnesses.

Our first panel will explore local authority governance and structural issues. Joining us are Andrew Burns, a member of the Accounts Commission and Carol Calder, interim audit director, both from Audit Scotland; Eddie Follan, chief officer for health and social care at the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities; Eddie Fraser, representing the Society of Local Authority Chief Executives and Senior Managers Scotland; and Derek Yule, a council member of the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy, otherwise known as CIPFA. I thank all our witnesses for joining us.

I have some initial questions about public expectations following the Covid pandemic. The questions are for everyone but, as we have only an hour, my colleagues and I might put a question to just one person as it may be relevant to that person’s work.

My first question is a general one for everyone. The Feeley review said that the Covid pandemic

“demonstrated clearly that the Scottish public expect national accountability for adult social care support and look to Scottish ministers to provide that accountability.”

Do you agree with that? Does anyone want to pick that up?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Ariane Burgess

Before we move on to a question from Mark Griffin, I just want to say that we are almost at half-past 10. I hope that it is okay if we go 10 minutes over, because the information that we are getting is really important and we have three more questions to ask.