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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

When we are working in committee on the marine space, one of the things that strikes me is the sense that fishermen who are out at sea are not necessarily cognisant of plans that are being imposed on how they have to change their practices. What are you going to put in place to ensure that fishers are aware of the fisheries management plans and the changes that they might have to make to their practices?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

It would certainly seem that an area-based regional approach might fit better with the ecosystems-based approach that we are now being asked to consider through the objectives under the Fisheries Act 2020.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Cabinet secretary, you have mentioned the FMAC a number of times. I am interested in your role in that. We have heard from stakeholders that it is not necessarily a satisfactory forum and is a bit frustrating, and that people’s concerns are not necessarily being heard. Additionally, in a recent discussion about the regional inshore fisheries groups, a concern was raised that, although some groups are working well, for others, the last update of minutes of meetings was in 2022. You talk about the fora for engagement, but how well are they actually working?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

That sounds reassuring. Over the past few years, we have been doing work through which it has become really clear that fishers are not aware of the Fisheries Act 2020, the Marine (Scotland) Act 2010 and all of the regulations. I also get a sense that stakeholders are not really clear that Scotland and the UK have signed up to a commitment to protect and restore 30 per cent of Scotland’s land and seas by 2030. That really needs to filter down. We see that issue in relation to the national planning framework as well, where we make high-level decisions that do not seem to get through on a more local level.

That is why I am touching on the idea of CPD and that kind of approach, so that we can really take people with us. In order to have a licence or a quota, for example, people would have to do some training to understand the shifting seascape that we are now working in.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

We have just worked together on the Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill, which is now an act—hooray! Continuing professional development is an aspect of the act, and I wonder what your thoughts are on bringing in CPD for this, so that, to get a licence, fishermen need to do professional development work in order to move along with what will potentially be big changes in their sector.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

It is interesting to hear that UK fisheries are some of the most regulated in the world. However, it is one thing to have regulation; enforcing and monitoring that is something else. I want to name that.

You are working on 21 plans in Scotland, out of—what is it?—29 plans, or something like that, in total. Scotland is responsible for a very large part of UK waters. Is there something in the mix around budget allocation for the work that needs to be done in Scotland, given that more fisheries management plans need to be developed? Is the right amount of resource being allocated, or is that part of the issue behind the delay, in that there are not enough people in the marine directorate who are able to put their attention to the work?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

It was helpful that Jane MacPherson outlined the 21 plans.

I want to come back to what the cabinet secretary said about an existing suite of measures. I would be interested to hear a description of what those measures are, in the cabinet secretary’s mind, so that we understand what already exists that she is aware of.

When the plans come in, will there be a transition to them, or will some of the existing measures for how we manage fisheries—which the cabinet secretary is about to unpack for us—also stay in place? How does the cabinet secretary see the situation?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Could you come back to us with an update when you have looked at that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Good morning and welcome to the 29th meeting in 2024 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent. We are joined online by Meghan Gallacher and Fulton MacGregor, and Mark Griffin will join us shortly.

Under agenda item 1, do members agree to take items 4 to 7 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Over the course of this discussion we have certainly covered some of the issues that need to be tackled. I very much appreciate your coming in and contributing to our work on the housing emergency. I will briefly suspend the meeting to allow for a change of witnesses.

10:29 Meeting suspended.  

10:34 On resuming—