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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 July 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

Point of Order

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Gillian Mackay

That was my next sentence.

Given that this is the second time in a week that Mr Ross has used language to either imply or directly accuse others of lying, could you tell the chamber whether that is a breach of the code of conduct and what mechanism can be used to address such poor behaviour?

Meeting of the Parliament

Point of Order

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Gillian Mackay

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. During the urgent question, my colleague Ross Greer referenced the number of votes that were won by ourselves and the Scottish National Party and the corresponding number for the Tories, Labour and the Lib Dems in the last election. During that question, from a sedentary position, Douglas Ross was heard by several members shouting, “He’s lying.”

I would like to provide a small maths lesson for Mr Ross, despite the fact that he is not in the chamber. Of all of the votes cast—both regional and constituency votes—the total for the Greens and the SNP was 2,640,892, and for the Tories, Labour and the Lib Dems the total was 2,624,835.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Mackay

Due to the scale of change that is required—for example, the upgrading of legacy systems—Stirling Council has suggested that there should be a phased launch of the information-sharing system. Do the witnesses have concerns about the capacity of some local authorities—and, potentially, the NHS—to complete that work in the suggested timeframe? Do you have any other issues that you want to raise about capacity and the workforce that is available?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Mackay

Good morning, panel. What risks are attached to separating social work functions, with some falling under the national care service and others remaining with local authorities? Could the approach create additional barriers and undermine provision of an holistic person-centred social work service?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Mackay

What opportunities are there for the national care service to improve mental health support and protection?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Mackay

The governance structures and the way that information is stored and what is stored where and by whom are not particularly clear for many people. Do the witnesses think that that is the case? What work would you like to be undertaken as part of the construction of the NCS to ensure that everyone knows their rights and responsibilities?

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Gillian Mackay

To ask the Scottish Government how the £50 million allocated for the Ukraine longer-term resettlement fund is addressing any issues of insecurity faced by affected Ukrainians. (S6O-01542)

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Gillian Mackay

Will the minister give details of how the £5 million fund that was allocated to North Lanarkshire Council, in my Central Scotland region, has directly impacted resettled Ukrainians?

Meeting of the Parliament

Chronic Pain Services

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Gillian Mackay

As many others have said today, chronic pain encompasses a wide range of conditions. For some, there are well-known progression and treatment options, but for others there is little predictability and some way to go before specific treatments are developed. All the conditions have a huge impact on the person experiencing the pain, as well as their loved ones and carers.

Chronic pain affects as much as a third of the population, with one in 10 experiencing high-impact pain. Most chronic pain is caused by musculoskeletal conditions. About eight in every 10 people with chronic pain report that at least some of the pain is in their neck, shoulders, back, limbs or extremities.

The impact of chronic pain is unequal and unfair. A recent Versus Arthritis report shows that certain groups in our society, such as people who live in deprived areas, people in minority ethnic groups, women and older people, experience greater life stress, disadvantage and discrimination and are more likely to have chronic pain. The Versus Arthritis report also says that improved parity with other long-term health conditions needs to be achieved.

Today’s debate is important in pressing for the best possible services for people with chronic pain and in ensuring that we have a medical and social culture that treats pain seriously and does not dismiss or diminish chronic pain as something that everyone gets. I commend Versus Arthritis, the Pain Association and the cross-party group on chronic pain for their work and advocacy on the issue.

I want to share the story of a friend’s journey with chronic pain following an assault. Again, I advocate for shared patient records to ensure that no one has to continue to repeat their story and describe their mechanism of injury. Following the assault, my friend was assessed by maxillofacial surgeons and it was concluded that a nerve in their face was damaged. As a result, they often had issues with pain and a loss of control and numbness in one side of their face. For trigeminal neuralgia, which is what they were diagnosed with, the treatment options were limited. They could choose either to have surgery that would completely sever the nerve, with the risk of more complications, or to take anticonvulsant medication to try to stop the pain.

Anticonvulsants have a number of side effects and require people to be careful with alcohol consumption—people even have to be careful about eating things such as grapefruit. For a young woman, constant pain, numbness and difficulty in controlling one side of their face was bad enough, but for there to be lifestyle impacts and implications added insult to injury. There was no pain clinic referral to talk about other options, nor were there offers to trial other medication. We need to improve that situation not just for people who experience chronic pain as a result of trauma, but, as many others have said, for people with back pain, joint pain or chronic pain that is caused by conditions such as endometriosis.

There should also be good mental health support for people with chronic pain. There are some days when the pain is manageable; there are other days when the frustration and stress are all consuming. For my friend with trigeminal neuralgia, it sometimes feels as though their eye is on fire, which is a constant reminder of the assault.

Experiencing chronic pain, whether it relates to musculoskeletal conditions, nerve pain or idiopathic pain, changes the way that people have to deal with their day-to-day life. For some whose condition might be progressive, the stress and mental toll that that takes cannot be overestimated; that in itself is often a traumatising experience. We need to ensure that people with chronic pain can get the help that they need to navigate their diagnosis. For many chronic pain sufferers, stress has the potential to flare up their condition, so we need to ensure that patients have the right tools and support to be able to manage stress as well as possible in order to prevent exacerbating their condition.

For the rest of my speech, I will focus on how we ensure that people with idiopathic pain are treated with the same compassion and care as those who have obvious mechanisms for dealing with their pain. As I said earlier, and as anyone with chronic pain will know, it is far too easy for people to say, “Get over it,” “Take some paracetamol,” or—that old chestnut—“Everyone gets a bit sore sometimes.” For people with idiopathic pain, there is the added complication of not feeling believed, because there is no obvious cause of their pain. It is no less sore than anyone else’s pain, and it is no less debilitating. It is exhausting to be put through test after test to rule out conditions and to be left with no more answers or with treatment options that are not always entirely suitable. Further research into idiopathic pain presentations is needed, and patient voices need to be heard to ensure that services reflect what sufferers need.

There is an important reflection about chronic pain on the Chest, Heart and Stroke Scotland website. Chronic pain is one of the conditions that people can potentially suffer from in the aftermath of a stroke, and it has various presentations. Chest, Heart and Stroke Scotland recommends that chronic pain sufferers know what their pain feels like and how it manifests, and that they take notes about it if they need to do so. We need to know when our body is telling us that something is wrong, and knowing one’s pain and how it presents could be very important depending on where and when it occurs.

Chronic pain can affect any of us in our lifetime. The effects can be debilitating and can impact on our wider health and our ability to do the basic thing of enjoying our lives. Our healthcare professionals are doing a wonderful job in addressing the root causes of pain. As we have done with other forms of healthcare, we are becoming more person centred, but we need to continue to listen to those people who experience pain and to build on their experiences.

16:10  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 15 November 2022

Gillian Mackay

Despite there being significant gaps in social care data, there is no requirement in the bill for care boards to collect data or report on performance. What data should be collected to inform social care reform and the development of a national care service? I know that that is like asking, “How long is a piece of string?” but your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I will come to Kay McVeigh first.