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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 November 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Meghan Gallacher

The minister will be aware that farmers growing malting barley have faced challenges this year, including a difficult harvest, falling prices, increased production costs and reduced demand from the Scotch whisky industry. Worryingly, it is anticipated that the challenges facing the industry will be long term and will affect farmers for years to come. Will the Scottish Government commit to increasing farm payments to compensate farmers for the losses that they are incurring? Will the Scottish Government liaise directly with the Scotch whisky industry to ensure that arable farmers are supported?

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Meghan Gallacher

To ask the Scottish Government what long-term action it will take to support farmers growing malting barley. (S6O-04999)

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

I will start with questions on the EPC validity time period. It is proposed that the period will reduce from 10 years to five years. John Blackwood, I hope that you do not mind, but I raised the concerns that the Scottish Association of Landlords has about the reduction with the previous panel. I will put my question to you first. What would you like to see changed in the proposed timeframe? Should we be sticking with 10 years or should we be following the alternative proposal that has been outlined?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Thank you. Bryan Leask, do you have any comments on the reduction in the validity timeframe?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

I agree. Scottish Land & Estates and other stakeholders have called for a rural impact assessment. You are right: if we are to go down the route of such assessments, they have to be meaningful and all those aspects must be explored. Again, your answers leave a lot of unanswered questions, but it was good to hear your thoughts.

I move on to the workings of the UK and Scottish Governments. Should there be closer working between them on EPC reform? Would that be better for landlords who have properties across the UK, to ensure some uniformity? What needs to happen to ensure that implementation is successful? I do not know whether Bryan Leask or John Blackwood wants to come in first.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

That is really helpful. Thank you both very much.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Thank you. That is helpful.

If witnesses will bear with me, I would like to expand on a point that Gillian Campbell raised in relation to landlords. We will hear from the Scottish Association of Landlords on our next panel. In its submission, it states that it has concerns regarding this particular proposal, because

“it will increase costs for landlords without delivering significant additional value”.

It also states:

“The energy efficiency of most properties will not materially change within five years”

and asks for a “more proportionate approach”, which would be to

“require a new EPC at the first letting”

following the minimum energy efficiency standard—MEES—compliance date and to

“retain the 10-year validity period thereafter”.

Does anyone have thoughts on those concerns or, indeed, alternative proposals?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

That is helpful.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

It goes back to the argument about up-front costs versus potential benefits that could follow thereafter, and the up-front costs will be daunting for many home owners up and down the country with these reforms coming through.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Energy Performance Certificates (Reform)

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Meghan Gallacher

Yes.

I will stick on this theme for a second and return to the issue of geographical challenges, which was discussed earlier in relation to rural versus more urban properties. Scottish Land & Estates is hinting at concerns about implementation, because it is harder to retrofit and upgrade rural properties in order for them to achieve EPC ratings. Given the type of buildings that rural properties are, in relation to structure and age, there are usually higher costs associated with trying to get them up to a good energy efficiency standard. How do we get around that?

There are houses and rural properties that do not achieve an EPC C rating, which is the energy efficiency standard that we are hoping that properties will achieve. With the new reforms, how will that be achieved without asking people to take ridiculous energy efficiency measures? One example that I heard about directly from the owner of a stand-alone rural property was that they would have to put up a wind turbine in front of the property. That gives an indication of the significant barriers that home owners in rural areas face in trying to make their homes more energy efficient.