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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 29 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
In the past, some in the sector have discussed at committee the desire to have more flexibility in relation to the implementation of the Scottish Government’s provisions on that.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 29 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
But does that necessarily diminish the contribution that the national companies make to Scotland?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 29 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
Yes. When was that?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 29 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
Who explained that to you?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 29 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
I am not talking about what was flagged publicly. I am asking about what you knew, really.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 29 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
The summary of what I am hearing is that you were aware that there were problems at HES from early in 2024, at least. You have a direct responsibility for this non-departmental public body. In fact, I just want to review this, because people who are watching or listening might be interested in how it all works. You are responsible for appointing the chair and board members of HES. Is that correct?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 29 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
Yes, yes.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 29 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
Yes, but I do want to get to the point.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 29 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
The question that I asked was not the question that you think I asked. It was: to whom do the chair and the board account? The answer to that question is you.
In light of the information that was coming to you about instability and other issues, would it not have been simple logic to have called them in and said, “We need to speak. There are problems and we need to talk about these problems. I need to hear from you. You are accountable to me. I represent the Scottish Government and the people who pay for all this. I want to know what is going on”? Why did you not ever meet the chair and the board of HES? It sounds extraordinary, does it not?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 29 January 2026
Stephen Kerr
All those concerns about what is happening in Historic Environment Scotland in relation to the workplace culture, leadership stability and so on long predate any issues relating to grievances. We will come on to the grievances if time permits. I hope that it does, because the public should get a full version of what is happening here.
The reality is that, from the moment the new chief executive took post, there were problems, as you have highlighted. Five times in a matter of weeks, the chairman of HES sought to brief the sponsorship team about issues relating to the CEO’s performance. That is true, is it not? The chairman proactively informed you and your team that there were issues with the CEO, but even then, when the chairman reached out and asked for support and help, you personally refused to meet him and the board.