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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 July 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Covid-19

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Kaukab Stewart

We know that vaccines are the best line of defence against Covid, especially as we face the new variant. Will the First Minister provide an update on the progress that is being made with extending the booster programme for under-40s?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Kaukab Stewart

Thank you. I think that I caught most of that.

I will move on to a slightly different issue while I still have my time. I remind everyone of my entry in the register of interests: I am currently an associate member of the NASUWT.

I come to Mike Corbett first. Your written submission states:

“Any strategy”

for effective recovery as we move forward is going to

“require an effective focus on the workforce”.

Can you give us your top three tips on workforce planning and how we can ensure that the education workforce is taken care of as we recover?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Kaukab Stewart

As a final question, I have a small supplementary. As the witnesses will know, I was a teacher for many years, and I know fine well about workload. The reports of the curriculum for excellence working group on tackling bureaucracy have been available for a while. What are the barriers to implementing the group’s recommendations and making a difference in tackling bureaucracy?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Kaukab Stewart

A lot of groups were set up to look at the impacts of Covid and how progress could be made. I am thinking, in particular, about the work of the Covid-19 education recovery group—CERG—and how that compared with pre-existing policy groups such as the Scottish education council. Do you feel that CERG was more collaborative? How much influence did, and does, CERG have on key policy decisions?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Kaukab Stewart

Did CERG have any influence on key Scottish Government policy decisions? Did you feel that it had status and was listened to?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Kaukab Stewart

The Social Work Scotland submission includes the sentence:

“What we do know is that this has been a lengthy and traumatic period of national and worldwide insecurity.”

It is important to highlight that.

The submission also mentions

“parental mental health, domestic abuse, and problematic parental alcohol and substance use.”

With our remit, the committee is trying to be as holistic as possible. Schools have a major part to play in the recovery, but I am interested in the witnesses’ perspectives on a multidisciplinary approach. They have touched on it in relation to early intervention, social work and community support services. There are so many agencies that I am a wee bit concerned that we are not as joined up as we could be. Do the witnesses have any perspectives on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Kaukab Stewart

What I am hearing suggests that there seems to be a bit of a disconnect between overarching policy and the way in which it is implemented at local level. It is interesting to know that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children and Young People (Impact of Covid)

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Kaukab Stewart

I am reassured by your answer.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Ventilation in Schools

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Kaukab Stewart

There can be no question but that ensuring the safety of children and young people, as well as all educational staff, is of paramount importance to everyone in this chamber. I therefore welcome the opportunity to contribute to the debate, and I thank Michael Marra for raising this important issue and Shirley-Anne Somerville for the amendment.

The debate highlights the need to follow the best Covid advice and to work together to implement mitigations at pace and consistently across Scotland. Anyone who has taught in schools knows only too well that creating a safe and healthy environment is paramount. School staff are well aware of how to create and maintain safe environments, because those are the foundation of the health and wellbeing that are necessary for learning and teaching. It makes learning fun, lively and sociable for children and young people.

I taught throughout the pandemic, and I keep in regular contact with educational colleagues, so I have some understanding of school environments. Only this morning, at the Education, Children and Young People Committee, we heard about examples of CO2 monitors being installed in classrooms, connected to wi-fi and monitored by teachers and centrally by department officials. We know that that is happening, although not necessarily in every council.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Ventilation in Schools

Meeting date: 1 December 2021

Kaukab Stewart

I thank Michael Marra for that question. I was about to go on. I have already said that there is excellent good practice. Councils need to share that best practice with each other to make the most of the £10 million Scottish Government funding that they have already received.

I note the comments of a few members, including Willie Rennie and Rhoda Grant, on the variance of school buildings. Had councils not been saddled with Tory-inspired and Labour-backed private finance, we would have modernised schools and we would have more revenue in the education budget for councils to go even further. Promises that were made at that time to provide schools that were meant to be fit for the 21st century failed to include CO2 monitoring.