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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 May 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

We will now do the formal part. The question is, that motion S6M-05966, in the name of Ben Macpherson, be agreed to.

Motion agreed to,

That the Social Justice and Social Security Committee recommends that the Social Security (Miscellaneous Amendment and Transitional Provision) (Scotland) Regulations 2022 [draft] be approved.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

I have a couple of questions about changes to the linking period. Did issues arise about how it was working in practice that made those changes necessary? In what circumstances would there be a long delay between a client losing entitlement and Social Security Scotland deciding to stop the Scottish child payment?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you, minister. We will move on to questions from Emma Roddick, to be followed by Pam Duncan-Glancy.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Any further information that the committee could get on that would be appreciated, minister.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Do members want to make any contributions?

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Absolutely.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Good morning, and welcome to the 27th meeting in 2022 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee.

Our main item of business is consideration of a draft statutory instrument. The Scottish Government advises that the draft regulations will make changes to the best start foods regulations, best start grant regulations and Scottish child payment regulations, which set out the rules and eligibility criteria for best start foods, the best start grant and the Scottish child payment.

I welcome Ben Macpherson MSP, the Minister for Social Security and Local Government, who joins us remotely, and his officials, who also join us remotely. We have Nicola Birrell, who is best start grant and best start foods policy manager with the Scottish Government; Karen Clyde, who is a solicitor with the Scottish Government; Janet Richardson, who is deputy director for client services delivery with Social Security Scotland; and Merlin Kemp, who is the Scottish child payment team leader at the Scottish Government.

The instrument has been laid under affirmative procedure, which means that Parliament must approve it before it comes into force. Following this evidence session, under the next agenda item the committee will be invited to consider a motion to approve the instrument. I remind everyone that the officials can speak during this agenda item but not in the debate that follows.

I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Thank you very much for your statement, minister. We will move to questions. As always, we will direct our questions to you, but you can bring in your officials when you want to.

The first questions are from my colleague Jeremy Balfour.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Rent Freeze and Evictions Moratorium

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Elena Whitham

I will just follow up on that, then I will ask another question.

We have a task and finish working group, but sometimes there is the task of the policy intention and then there is how something is finished and what impact it has. I am keen to look at the impact assessment that has been published, but I am concerned about the other end of the process and about double-checking in, say, six months’ time that we have understood the consequences as they apply to those groups who often experience the sharpest impact of poverty and inequality. I would like to get an assurance that the Scottish Government will seek to report back on that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Rent Freeze and Evictions Moratorium

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Elena Whitham

Good morning. We have discussed already the fact that we have a lot of data gaps. I hope that a housing bill will help us to sort that out.

With regard to social justice in particular, we know that the individuals who are bearing the worst of the cost crisis tend to be women, people with disabilities and people from black and minority ethnic communities. How do we ensure that we collect the data that we need in order to understand the impact of the intervention? I hear people calling it a sticking plaster, but in emergency situations a sticking plaster is often all that we can apply. How do we ensure that those who need it most will benefit from the policy, given that we do not generally collect disaggregated gender data and that we do not always understand intersectionality with regard to how policies are applied?

The tenant grant fund and discretionary housing payments have been mentioned. How do we ensure that the Scottish welfare fund is applied effectively? Who collects data, and how do we ensure that we get the intended outcome? That question is for Rhiannon Sims, Emma Saunders and Caroline Crawley. I am interested in the perspective of tenants in your organisations.