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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We move to Fulton MacGregor, and then I will bring in Jamie Hepburn.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Yes.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you, Niina, for your comprehensive opening comments.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Audrey Nicoll

As no other members have questions, we will move on to our next item of business, which is consideration of the motions to approve the affirmative SSIs on which we have just taken oral evidence. I invite the cabinet secretary to move motions S6M-18945, S6M-18946 and S6M-19179, in the name of Siobhian Brown, and to make any brief additional comments that she wishes to make.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much indeed.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you all for your helpful opening remarks. Although there are different views in the room, you have articulated those views very well in a way that is helpful to members.

I will bring in the deputy convener to ask questions in a moment but, in the interests of getting through as much as we can this morning, I ask for succinct questions and answers, although I know that that is sometimes difficult. I also draw members’ attention to the research and studies that have been mentioned this morning, which we can access if members would find it helpful.

With that, I hand over to Liam Kerr and then I will bring in Sharon Dowey.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Audrey Nicoll

The next item of business is a continuation of our scrutiny of the Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill. We have one panel of witnesses and I intend to allow up to 90 minutes for the panel. I refer members to papers 4 and 5.

I welcome to the meeting Dr Niina Vuolajärvi, assistant professor in international migration, London School of Economics; Ruth Breslin, director of the Sexual Exploitation Research and Policy Institute in the Republic of Ireland; and Dr Larissa Sandy, associate professor of criminology at the University of Nottingham. Professor Jo Phoenix, professor of criminology at the University of Reading, joins us online. I thank those who were able to send written submissions to the committee.

I remind everyone that we are here to look at the provisions in the bill. I would like questions and answers to stay focused on the provisions as much as possible.

I will start with a broad question, which I will direct first to Niina Vuolajärvi, then work around the room, before bringing in Jo Phoenix. What are your overall views of the bill? Is there anything that you particularly agree or disagree with or that you think could be improved?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I am afraid that I will have to close the session there. We are well over time, so I am sorry, but I have to draw things to a close.

Thank you all for joining us. Thank you for coming online, Jo Phoenix. It has been an invaluable session and there is lots for us to think about.

12:56 Meeting continued in private until 13:08.  

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Audrey Nicoll

There are a couple of members still to come in. If folk can bear with us, we will run the session for another 10 minutes or so in order that we can get through as much as possible.

I say to committee members that I propose that we defer our final agenda item to a future meeting, if that is okay.

I will bring in Pauline McNeill and then Fulton MacGregor.

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I thank the minister for that update. A key pillar of the strategy is prevention—intervening in such a way as to mitigate negative outcomes for people while dramatically reducing demand for expensive acute or crisis services. After 40 years of working in the public sector, I whole-heartedly agree with that objective. However, there are many barriers to creating a truly preventative system. Will the minister outline what progress has been made in removing those barriers? What action is being taken to review current budgeting processes that can, in themselves, be a barrier to shifting resources to preventative spend?