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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Resource Spending Review

Meeting date: 23 June 2022

Paul McLennan

Thanks, cabinet secretary. I also asked about spillover. In the medium-term strategic framework, there is mention that there are still issues about the restrictions relating to spillover. Will you touch on that?

I think that you have answered my next question, which is about how the discussions with the UK Government are going. Is there an indicative timescale for when we expect to get an answer back from the discussions on the fiscal framework?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Resource Spending Review

Meeting date: 23 June 2022

Paul McLennan

Good morning, cabinet secretaries. I apologise that I cannot be with you in the committee room.

I want to expand a little on the issues relating to the fiscal framework that Kate Forbes mentioned. You talked about the vagaries of Government forecasting. The Office for Budget Responsibility had forecast the cost of interest on Government borrowing as £87 billion. This morning, it has said that the cost will be more than £100 billion. That highlights the vagaries in trying to forecast. An extra £13 billion has literally just been added on.

Cabinet secretary, you mentioned the restrictions under the fiscal framework. You talked about increased borrowing powers and mentioned a figure of about £300 million. Does the Scottish Government have an estimated figure that would give us that flexibility, particularly on demand-led spend, as you have said?

I also want to ask about the impact of spillover issues. I do not know whether you want to tackle those two issues together. I have one other question, but those are my main two on the fiscal framework.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 June 2022

Paul McLennan

Good morning, cabinet secretary and minister. I apologise that I cannot be with you in the committee room this morning.

A few weeks ago, three or four of us from the committee met people with lived experience. That was a very worthwhile exercise. One chap mentioned the financial problems that he had got himself into. He went to his general practitioner and was told about social prescribing. He said that that referral literally saved his life. What are your views on the role of social prescribing in relation to accessing debt advice? That is one example; I am sure that there are many others.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Resource Spending Review

Meeting date: 23 June 2022

Paul McLennan

We can see that more fiscal flexibility would help both the cabinet secretary and the committee.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 June 2022

Paul McLennan

Thank you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Accounts Commission Local Government and Financial Overview Reports

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Paul McLennan

One major expenditure is energy costs. Some local authorities will hedge their energy costs for a period of time, so they will know the impact. One of the main reasons for the rise in inflation is energy costs. Have you had any feedback from directors of finance in that regard? Obviously, energy costs were forecast to go up but not by as much as they have, and we have another rise coming in October.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Accounts Commission Local Government and Financial Overview Reports

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Paul McLennan

As the convener of the cross-party group on wellbeing economy, I totally agree. Thank you for your answers—they are much appreciated.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Accounts Commission Local Government and Financial Overview Reports

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Paul McLennan

That is helpful.

My final point follows on from the point that Carol Calder made. One of the most important things as we recover from the pandemic is economic recovery. Funding for economic development and planning departments is key as part of that recovery. Do you have any thoughts on funding of those services and do you see that as part of the business recovery from Covid?

Again, I ask Bill Moyes to say who is the best person to answer that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Accounts Commission Local Government and Financial Overview Reports

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Paul McLennan

Good morning, panel. As the convener said, I want to ask about longer-term financial sustainability and the impact of budget changes. The first point is about the impact of rising inflation. Last week, we heard that it could go up to 11 per cent. In your view, what will be the impact on local authorities of rising inflation? It is projected to be high for about 18 months at least.

I ask Bill Moyes to say who is the best person to answer that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Accounts Commission Local Government and Financial Overview Reports

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Paul McLennan

I am glad to hear that you are considering an audit. From my 15 years of experience in a council, I think that one of the key questions is about councils’ role in economic development: is it as a facilitator or an enabler? I hope that that question would be picked up in an audit. I do not know whether Carol has anything to add, but I think that Antony Clark has made an important point.