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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Paul McLennan

I was reading your written evidence, which says that level of debt in the United Kingdom is about £13.5 billion, of which Scotland’s share would be about £1.5 billion to £2 billion.

I put the same question to Kirsty McKechnie.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Paul McLennan

This is for Gordon MacRae. Some of the evidence that we have received is around advice, in relation to both the public and the private sectors. There are figures that show how public sector rent arrears have increased, but that is not so much the case for the private sector. Can we get such evidence? You have seen that increase. Anecdotal evidence has shown that there has been such an increase.

How difficult is it to get to the private rented sector when it is so diverse? What can we do about that? I noticed that the key cost for an eviction is about £24,000. How can we be pre-emptive in the advice that we give? Can we be more pre-emptive in getting advice to people before they get into trouble and they arrive on the doorstep?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Paul McLennan

You have just touched on the point that I was going to address, convener. Previous stakeholders have talked about how solutions for people in debt are not just about reforming the debt processes and how we deal with that, but are also about how we increase incomes via the social security system. Does anybody want to expand on the point the convener touched on about universal credit teams? Is there more that can be done about that?

Kirsty McKechnie, you touched on simplification of the process in terms of criteria. Also, you talked about the complications within the local authorities and who deals with what. Can more be done about that?

This morning, I saw that Audit Scotland had published a report about the roll-out of the benefits system so far in Scotland. It seems to have been successful, but challenges remain. We have 20 per cent devolved benefits at the moment and, by 2025, it will be 70 per cent. Can we learn any lessons between now and 2025 about how we roll out those other benefits to make them as effective as possible?

Kirsty, I will come to you first on the points that you mentioned about criteria and equity and access to the system.

10:45  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Low Income and Debt Inquiry

Meeting date: 19 May 2022

Paul McLennan

One point concerned equity but another point involves making people aware of the benefits. That comes back to the point that Martin Canavan mentioned before, about trying to get that advice out there so that we can pre-empt some of the issues—Betty Stone made the same points. We need to increase the benefits but we also need to do more about the accessibility. Does anyone want to add anything to that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Paul McLennan

I understand the point that you are making, but what about those developers who do not comply? What are the next steps that can be taken in that respect? As you will have seen, there are some developers who are more compliant and quicker to move on things than others, and I just wonder whether in the meantime until developers are actually complying, the Scottish Government can do anything through legislation or some other approach to push things forward.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Paul McLennan

I have a follow-up question. Last week, we heard calls for the single building assessment form to form the basis of a building MOT system, with the creation of a central repository of information on buildings as they are constructed. Would the Scottish Government support that? Does it have views on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Paul McLennan

In your opinion, is there enough co-ordination across the sector? I am talking about housing providers, not just the pension providers. Is there a need for more co-ordination across the sector on private investment opportunities? Is there enough co-ordination on the part of pension providers in relation to investigating what the barriers are, how we can open things up and where the opportunities are?

12:00  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Paul McLennan

How can RSLs and councils develop new homes more efficiently to reduce costs and ensure value for money? That issue has been touched on, but does anyone want to add anything?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Affordable Housing

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Paul McLennan

Mark Rodgers, I want to pick up your point about funding. There is an opportunity to expand the use of pension funds and real estate investment trusts. Why is Scotland not as advanced as the rest of the United Kingdom in that regard?

On a related matter—I will open up the question—you referred to the ownership of land in the Highlands. Are there any opportunities to work with landowners so that selling their land, including for housing, is a more attractive option for them? What barriers do you see to that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Paul McLennan

Good morning, minister—I mean, good afternoon. I have fallen into the same trap.

At last week’s meeting, we heard about people being trapped in zero-value homes and having issues with accessing affordable buildings insurance. Can the Scottish Parliament offer any practical help in that regard?