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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Paul McLennan

That is helpful, thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Thanks, Claire. Does anybody else want to come in on that point?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Very briefly, before she comes in, how do we measure how effective the advocacy process has been? I think that we asked our previous witnesses about that, too. It is fine to have access to that, but how do we measure its effectiveness?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Paul McLennan

I come to David Mackie on the hearings system specifically, and then I will go to Fiona Duncan.

A key point is how we measure the effectiveness of advocacy. It is one thing to have it in place, but how do we measure its effectiveness? Advocacy in the hearings system is important, so I would like to hear your thoughts on that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Fiona Duncan, I will just come to you to talk about the points that Fraser McKinlay and David Mackie have made. I am an advocate of advocacy services and, having seen them work in practice, I know that they can make a huge difference to where children are in a process that can be an extremely troubling for them. What are your thoughts on that? Perhaps you could come back to the point about how we measure the effectiveness of advocacy.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Good morning. I am the MSP for East Lothian.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Paul McLennan

The Social Justice and Social Security Committee, on which I previously sat, held an inquiry into employability, during which the issues that you mentioned in relation to housing, transport and childcare were raised. I mentioned last week that how we follow the money is not just for this committee but for other committees, as well.

Does Emma Congreve or anyone else want to come in on that point? It is about how we learn lessons in this committee and in other committees about following the money in various budget areas.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Paul McLennan

I want to build on the accountability point. We had a workshop with CARM members last week. They talked about their lived experience and collaboration with service users when they are designing services. I used this quote from one of the CARM members earlier on:

“One of the biggest challenges we faced was ensuring that our voices translated into meaningful influence. While our panel’s questions were put directly to the Minister, it was evident that translating these into real change requires persistence, transparency, and stronger accountability mechanisms.”

That was not about Scottish Government accountability but more about its partners. How can we ensure that the Government’s partners are delivering on the Government’s objectives, and that the voice of those with lived experience is reflected in delivery by partners? That was one of the points that was raised by CARM last week. I will ask the minister first and go to the cabinet secretary after that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Good morning. I will follow up on the discussions about following the money and accountability. Last week, we had a meeting with CARM, and I will read part of a statement that was made by one of the participants:

“One of the biggest challenges we faced was ensuring that our voices translated into meaningful influence. While our panel’s questions were put directly to the Minister, it was evident that translating these into real change requires persistence, transparency, and stronger accountability mechanisms.”

That goes back to the point that Angela O’Hagan made about the Scottish Government meeting its minimum core responsibilities. One issue that came through strongly was a real lack of data—which confirms what has been said. That also relates to lived experience. We have heard about that today. It does not just relate to the issues that were raised through CARM; it goes beyond that.

Is that indicative of what is happening in other parts of the budget? Last week, we heard about a case study on employability, and the issues there came through strongly. In your experience, does the same thing come through in other parts of the budget? Does that demonstrate that the minimum core requirements are being met or not? The accountability issue came through really strongly last week, in that the Government has been passing monies on but has not been following the money to see the outcomes.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Paul McLennan

I noticed Aberlour’s comments on similar issues in the press this morning.

Allan Faulds, do you want to come in?

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