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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 September 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Michelle Thomson

You have taken another opportunity to put further commentary very effectively on the record. On the point that I asked about, aside from capacity—which, of course, is linked to funding—is there more that you feel you could have done if all things had been equal? I ask that because many of our evidence sessions are starting to feel like groundhog day for me, as we hear similar messages, and there is a commonly held understanding at the front of people’s heads that we need to do this, but something always seems to happen. That means that key groupings—not just women in business but small and medium-sized enterprises—are not necessarily thought of in the way that they should have been thought of. Is it simply an issue of capacity and funding, or is it more systemic?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Michelle Thomson

Given that, and your earlier commentary about how you do not feel that the perspective of SMEs is understood—you have given various examples—what, then, is the issue? Has there been an issue with how representation has been given? Indeed, you have clarified that for me—thank you. Have SMEs not been listened to? Is it more complex than that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Michelle Thomson

Although the movement in bond yields, of course, was the result of recent movements, I concede that other factors are at play in the wider global economy. However, one element of bond yields is confidence in policy at UK Government level. That is one element of it, among many.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Michelle Thomson

You did not answer my direct question. My challenge is, how certain, given your articulation of the UK macroeconomy, can any city and region deal be as to the future profiling and flow of funding on a multiyear basis, given that the chancellor has been quite clear in saying that she will leave no stone unturned to look for potential cuts? This is a chance for you to put on record that the money that the UK Government has promised over a period will remain intact. Can you do that today?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Michelle Thomson

I want to move on to another topic—that of the role of this Parliament in the scrutiny of city region and regional growth deals. It has not been certain to us as a committee in what respect the Scottish Parliament has previously had a role in ensuring that the city region deals have the positive outcomes that we all want to see. What is your sentiment as to the role of this place in that regard? What is your intention with regard to giving this Parliament its place when it comes to scrutiny?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Michelle Thomson

I have a couple of quick questions. Earlier, you mentioned the industrial strategy. The UK’s industrial strategy advisory council was formed in late 2024, but I am concerned about the fact that, despite the recognition that Scotland is at the heart of the net zero future, which is a critical growth sector, there is no Scottish representation on that council. Why is that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, and thank you very much for joining us. I want to ask some general questions on the funding for the deals. We know that their profile has been different, and we know there have been historical differences and so on. You may be aware that the Secretary of State for Scotland gave evidence earlier, and I asked him, in light of the forthcoming review and the general challenges in the UK economy, whether there could be an impact on city deals, given the chancellor’s expressed need to find money anywhere that she can. How strong a sense do you have of the commitment to multiyear funding and, within that, the bringing in of private sector funding? In particular, how confident will the private sector be in funding if UK Government commitments to funding are uncertain?

It is a general question and I am not bothered who goes first. Derek, you smiled.

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Michelle Thomson

Thank you. Does anyone else want to comment?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Michelle Thomson

No—it is fine. You have put your view on the record, and that is helpful. Thank you. I appreciate you attending today.

On governance, you correctly point out that both the Scottish Government and the UK Government have a role to play. From a purely governance perspective, I have always been a little unclear as to how that arrangement works. Generally speaking, in any governance structure, there will be one authority that is ultimately accountable. In this instance, the position is less clear from a governance perspective. Who do you see being the ultimate accountable body when both the Scottish Government and the UK Government are providing funding? How do you see the arrangement working in that regard?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Michelle Thomson

The Scottish Council for Development and Industry—now known as Prosper—was formed in 1931 with a specific focus on industrial strategy. However, it is not represented on the council, which seems utterly bizarre. In other words, will you commit today to looking at ensuring that there is proper Scottish representation on the council to make sure that Scotland is properly at the heart of the net zero future, which is one of the critical growth sectors?