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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Product Regulation and Metrology Bill

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

You rightly made the point that it is an enabling bill—a framework bill. You will be aware that there has been quite a lot of discussion in the Parliament about framework bills and what they enable. Efficiency and effectiveness has been discussed, and there has been scrutiny by MSPs of the matter in the chamber and in committees.

Have you given any thought to how you will ameliorate the potential risks, if Scottish ministers have the potential to give consent, but still ensure that the appropriate scrutiny can take place, given that framework bills limit effective scrutiny in the chamber? That is, in general, considered to be an issue by members across the committee.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

That was it—thank you.

My question is for Malcolm Bennie. With regard to the governance of the Falkirk and Grangemouth growth deal, while it is ostensibly more simple because only Falkirk Council is involved, it is also more complex, given that Ineos is at the heart of the area’s future, and Ineos’s vested interests will therefore come to the fore. From a governance perspective, how are you consciously addressing that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

If Ineos is on the board, it is clearly influencing it at that level. I would not necessarily expect it to be involved in delivery, but it is a key influencer by merit of its being on the board.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

Let me play that back for the record, so that I am clear. The projects that were specifically for Grangemouth were already in train, and the Scottish Government’s £10 million is going to them. The remaining £10 million of the £20 million in extra funds arising from the closure of the refinery is in the hands of the UK Government for future energy-related projects, and we do not yet know what those are.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

It follows on from a point that my colleague Kevin Stewart made in noting a term that was used. I think that it was a bag full of—

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

However, PetroChina, with Ineos being at the heart of that, wants to move away now. The Scottish Government has called for a pause in the company’s plans to move to an import-only facility. The company is at the very heart of the growth, and its wish is to close the refinery. That is clearly quite a conflict of interests. In other words, the company is at the very heart of devising the programme that is in its own interests, and I was asking you how you are consciously dealing with that. It sounds to me as if you have not reflected on the idea that there could be, at least, the potential for a conflict of interests, even if one is not currently occurring.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

I have a few questions arising from what we have discussed so far, and I suppose that they follow on from the point about the differential structure in the programmes and the references to a flat profile.

I want to come back to Malcolm Bennie with a question, although it might well be a general question for the rest of the panel, too. How are you able to reflect “Events, dear boy”, if you like? I have already mentioned what happened with the refinery at Grangemouth, which resulted in the Falkirk growth deal receiving extra spend—£10 million from the Scottish Government and £10 million from the UK Government—and being rebranded as the Falkirk and Grangemouth growth deal. To what extent was that a last-minute bolt-on response rather than an active, planned part of the growth deal?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

I apologise to the rest of the panel. I suspect that that discussion has been a bit Falkirk specific, but I hope that you will forgive me, given my vested interest. Thank you, convener.

Meeting of the Parliament

Budget 2025-26

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

As one of my colleagues commented, the member makes the same speech every year about the record sums of money that are coming to the Scottish Government. When did he last sit down to work out the cumulative effect of inflation and compare the Scottish Government’s budget against it? It is as though he is living in isolation.

Meeting of the Parliament

Budget 2025-26

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Michelle Thomson

Mr Hoy is, along with me, on the Finance and Public Administration Committee. When the Scottish Fiscal Commission was in front of us yesterday, I specifically brought up the terminology “economic performance gap”. If Mr Hoy had been listening in that evidence session, he would have heard the Scottish Fiscal Commission making it clear that that gap is nothing to do with the actions of the Scottish Government. That is on the public record, so I invite you to reread that. Is that further evidence of the Conservatives’ Hetty Wainthropp style new front bench?