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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

I think that that message has come through clearly.

Within COSLA, how commonly understood is the budget process that the Scottish Government goes through? For example, do you understand that there are 11th-hour changes and that those have an impact on financial flow-throughs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

Alastair Sim, you quoted a figure per head for students. What is the overall percentage of Scottish Government funding for the universities sector? I ask because I am not sure of the figure.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

I suppose that the framework is attempting to do that as we all move beyond a difficult financial time.

One of the committee’s other concerns is the general lack of understanding of how the budget process works for the Scottish Government and the impact that it has on everyone else’s budgets. You are clearly across that and you will understand that, for example, the final figures came in literally at the 11th hour—the night before stage 3. However, how clearly is that understood by your colleagues in CIPFA and the council? I think that it was the finance secretary who said that it is like trying to land a 747 on a postage stamp, which describes it well. What is your perception of how clearly the process is understood across the board among your colleagues in CIPFA and the council?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

Yes, it does. Going to your accountancy background, I have asked on a number of different occasions whether data on how much time is spent on the process—you spoke earlier about opportunity cost—is collected when we go through that curmudgeonly process? Doing projections that are promptly zapped is often a waste of time. That is one area where I would be looking to note how many days are being used in order to illustrate inefficiencies, when it is all changed at the 11th hour. Does CIPFA or COSLA collect that data?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

Do you know what the aggregated percentage is for the rest of the UK? I am just interested.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

I knew that you would enjoy that opportunity. Thank you for that.

Would the other two witnesses like to add anything on that question with some thoughts that might have been triggered by today’s discussion?

I see that Paul Bradley is taking a deep breath.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

Thank you very much for that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

What specific agreement have you made with Audit Scotland in that respect?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Given that Scotland has a different education system, as you well know, and given what we have seen with transport connectivity, I would not be entirely confident about the methodology for that.

I want to just—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

I sense that this is breaking news, Mr Gove. Not only do you want to take away powers from the Scottish Parliament in some areas that previously resided with the EU but you now want to do so in some areas of education, which is totally and utterly devolved.