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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 September 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Provisional Outturn 2021-22

Meeting date: 23 June 2022

Michelle Thomson

As the minister has outlined, the pandemic caused considerable uncertainty in budgeting, with a need to respond quickly to rapidly changing circumstances. He mentioned the additional uncertainty caused by late notice—or, indeed, lack of engagement—from the UK Government in terms of when funding could be expected.

I note that, despite that uncertainty, Audit Scotland concluded in its recent report, “Scotland’s financial response to Covid-19”, that

“The Scottish Government ... managed its overall budget”

well. That said, can the minister advise what lessons can be taken from the experience of public spending during the crisis and what changes could be made to better manage such uncertainty?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Broadband Connectivity

Meeting date: 22 June 2022

Michelle Thomson

It is heartening to hear about what you have built into the contracts as a protection against the increase in costs.

On labour force issues, cabinet secretary, the engineers in particular are real boots on the ground that have to be deployed. It is not like you can send in a bot. Sometimes, I look at the detailed reporting of each of the programmes. That is the standard function that pulls out issues. However, it would be useful for the committee to have more flavour of where a gap in labour availability is pushing out timescales because I suspect that that issue will continue to run when we consider other sectors. It would be useful if more information about that was made available.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Broadband Connectivity

Meeting date: 22 June 2022

Michelle Thomson

Absolutely. I know that you have raised that matter on a number of occasions.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Broadband Connectivity

Meeting date: 22 June 2022

Michelle Thomson

I turn back to the macroeconomic environment. As you know, consumer price inflation was at 9.1 per cent in May 2022, and we anticipate that it will peak considerably higher. In terms of supply chain issues, we have had Brexit and the pandemic, and as you know, the committee did an inquiry into those. How might the UK macroeconomic environment have an impact on rising costs for delivery or the timelines for our existing programmes?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Financial Memorandum for the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Michelle Thomson

Earlier, you mentioned the NPF. If you were reflecting on it again, would you reflect on the need for it to flow through at the start rather than with hindsight?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Financial Memorandum for the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Michelle Thomson

A lot of the areas that I might have covered have already been asked about. I have a final question that extends across the whole gamut of areas that we have discussed. Knowing what we know now, with the benefit of hindsight, what would you do differently next time to implement this national policy?

We have covered a lot of the issues around data collection. Nobody knew that the pandemic was coming, but we have touched on other issues as well. It is not just about implementation of the policy; it is also about outcomes, and we have to look at financial effectiveness. What would you do differently next time, Sarah?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Financial Memorandum for the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Michelle Thomson

David, what is your view, from a council perspective?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Financial Memorandum for the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Michelle Thomson

Matthew Sweeney, do you have any final comments?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Michelle Thomson

Yes. I would like you to think about how we would do that, if we wanted to do it. It is clearly an issue, although I fully accept the complexity around it.

I want to cover our shared interest in culture at the heart of place in relation to town centres. We have heard evidence during the inquiry that culture must be at the table, and we have heard discussions about the extent to which culture can be involved in business improvement districts and so on. We have even heard commentary that bodies such as Creative Scotland should be made statutory consultees. Do you see culture as being at the heart of town centres? What is the Government’s thinking on how it might be able to assist that to be the case as we come out of the pandemic and deal with all the issues that we have covered today?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Michelle Thomson

I totally agree with you about key stakeholders being at the table.

That takes us back to a point that Maggie Chapman made and on which you picked up, minister, about community entrepreneurialism. Arguably, musicians and artists are entrepreneurs. Perhaps we need to start to think about them in that way.

I will not press you for an answer, but I am interested in whether the Scottish Government has considered or is considering ideas that would practically support people who are in culture when we think of it as being at the heart of place. I refer, for example, to targeted rates relief, to go back to some of the points that John Mason made. Rather than thinking about it as a broad brush across the top—culture is good and it contributes to society—are we thinking of it as being at the heart of town centre regeneration and enablement, because it brings in many other things and supports many other types of business as well?